[solved] Circular polarization transponders issue (1 Viewer)

[Coffeeman]

Hi,
I use Mediaportal for a month for now and can say that I'm really enjoy it with all the features availble.
The issue I experience is that I cannot find channels from satellite Eutelsat 36A/36B transponder 12322 (12322060 kHz) which use circular right polarization.
Specifically here is the channel list which is unavailable through Mediaportal:
http://frocus.net/main.php?lng=en&rzd=tvkanal&pag=tp&pack=1&tp_id=180#180

I tried different parameters of search, but no luck.
At the same time ProgDVB finds those channels as well as my TV equipped with built-in SAT tuner. So seems that is software issue.

I used search and found out that I'm not the only one experiencing such an issue.
I use Mediaportal 1.9 under Win7 64-bit, not sure that I should update to 1.10 yet.
My DVB card is DVBSky T9580 DVB-T2/T/C/S2/S
Any comment/suggestions/advises are highly welcome

 

[Vasilich]

we need logs from TV Server after scanning this frequency.

I used search and found out that I'm not the only one experiencing such an issue.

can you post links to the same issue?

Do you have problem scanning only this transponder, or all the others with circular also?

 

[Coffeeman]

Will post a link later. Now I'm posting logs. Frankly speaking I was not able to attach particular search logs and therefore all logs attached.
Just as a comment I've just ran new channel search with default parameters and then with only 12322 transponder parameters.

Sorry, I did not answer the second question. Actually I see that the issue is with only one transponder, but I did not dig into details too deep

 

[Vasilich]

Spoiler: successful scan

[2015-01-23 20:03:10,140] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs: ScanVBS:tv: Freq:12322000 ONID:-1 TSID:-1 SID:-1 PMT:0xFFFFFFFF FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,145] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs: TuneVBS:tv: Freq:12322000 ONID:-1 TSID:-1 SID:-1 PMT:0xFFFFFFFF FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,150] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb:GetNewSubChannel:13 #15
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,155] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - TvDvbChannel ctor new subchIndex:15
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,159] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - LNB low:9750 hi:10600 switch:11700
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,163] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs:channel modulation is set to ModNotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,167] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs:channel FECRate is set to Rate3_4
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,170] [Log ] [68 ] [DEBUG] - Hauppauge: SendDiseq: 0xE0 0x10 0x38 0xF1 0x4 0x0 0x3 0x0 0x1 0x3 0x1
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,535] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmiting tunerequest Channel: subChannel:15
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,540] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb:using existing subchannel:15
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,545] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmit tunerequest size:14 new:15
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,550] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:15 OnBeforeTune
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,555] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmit tunerequest calling put_TuneRequest
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,764] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmit tunerequest done calling put_TuneRequest
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,770] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:15 OnAfterTune
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,775] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - RunGraph
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,780] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,805] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,830] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,855] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:03:10,880] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:03:11,085] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal ok
[2015-01-23 20:03:11,090] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:15 OnGraphStart
[2015-01-23 20:03:11,095] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:15 Graph already running - WaitForPMT
[2015-01-23 20:03:11,100] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:15 SetupPmtGrabberid FFFFFFFF sid:FFFFFFFF
[2015-01-23 20:03:11,105] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:15 SetupPmtGrabberid FFFFFFFF sid:FFFFFFFF
[2015-01-23 20:03:11,152] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Scan: tuner locked:True signal:62 quality:92
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,180] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 0) 0x70 0x5 0x5015 0x8C Discovery Channel type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,186] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Discovery Channel Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20501 PMT:0x8C FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,191] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 1) 0x70 0x5 0x5016 0x8D MTV type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,196] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ MTV Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20502 PMT:0x8D FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,201] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 2) 0x70 0x5 0x5017 0x8E Nick Jr. type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,206] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Nick Jr. Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20503 PMT:0x8E FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,211] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 3) 0x70 0x5 0x5018 0x8F Animal Planet type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,215] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Animal Planet Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20504 PMT:0x8F FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,218] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 4) 0x70 0x5 0x5019 0x90 TLC type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,221] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ TLC Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20505 PMT:0x90 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,224] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 5) 0x70 0x5 0x501A 0x91 Eurosport type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,227] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Eurosport Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20506 PMT:0x91 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,230] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 6) 0x70 0x5 0x501B 0x95 VH1 European type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,233] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ VH1 European Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20507 PMT:0x95 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,236] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 7) 0x70 0x5 0x501C 0x97 Mezzo type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,239] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Mezzo Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20508 PMT:0x97 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,242] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 8) 0x70 0x5 0x501D 0x98 Viasat Golf type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,245] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Viasat Golf Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20509 PMT:0x98 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,248] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 9) 0x70 0x5 0x501F 0x92 CBS Drama type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,251] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ CBS Drama Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20511 PMT:0x92 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,254] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 10) 0x70 0x5 0x5020 0x93 Nat Geo Wild type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,257] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ Nat Geo Wild Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20512 PMT:0x93 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,260] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - 11) 0x70 0x5 0x5022 0x96 National Geographic type:1
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,263] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Found: DVBS:tv:HTB+ National Geographic Freq:12322000 ONID:112 TSID:5 SID:20514 PMT:0x96 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:CircularR InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:03:16,266] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - Scan Got 12 from 12 channels

so 12 channels were found for this transponder. So far - i don't see any problem.

then you scanned with some weird settings:

Spoiler: bad scan

[2015-01-23 20:08:51,468] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs: ScanVBS:tv: Freq:12322000 ONID:-1 TSID:-1 SID:-1 PMT:0xFFFFFFFF FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:23437 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:LinearH InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,471] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs: TuneVBS:tv: Freq:12322000 ONID:-1 TSID:-1 SID:-1 PMT:0xFFFFFFFF FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:23437 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:LinearH InnerFecRate:Rate3_4 DisEqc:Level1AA band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,473] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb:GetNewSubChannel:47 #89
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,475] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - TvDvbChannel ctor new subchIndex:89
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,477] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - LNB low:9750 hi:10600 switch:11700
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,479] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs:channel modulation is set to ModNotSet
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,481] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbs:channel FECRate is set to Rate3_4
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,483] [Log ] [68 ] [DEBUG] - Hauppauge: SendDiseq: 0xE0 0x10 0x38 0xF3 0x4 0x0 0x3 0x0 0x1 0x3 0x1
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,846] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmiting tunerequest Channel: subChannel:89
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,851] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb:using existing subchannel:89
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,855] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmit tunerequest size:48 new:89
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,859] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:89 OnBeforeTune
[2015-01-23 20:08:51,863] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmit tunerequest calling put_TuneRequest
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,071] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvbubmit tunerequest done calling put_TuneRequest
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,074] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - subch:89 OnAfterTune
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,077] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - RunGraph
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,080] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,103] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,126] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,151] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:08:52,180] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal waiting 20ms
[2015-01-23 20:08:54,102] [Log ] [68 ] [INFO ] - dvb: LockInOnSignal could not lock onto channel - no signal or bad signal

and that combination of wrong bitrate and polarisation surely cannot work, hense - nothing found
After that i see that you have tried some more different settings, and even pol= LinearV worked (though i can't imagine why).

the question to @mm1352000 - can you explain why the transponder can deliver the channels that are not expected for these setttings? i have checked on lyngsat - same info HTB+ provider, but different channels (from 12456 circularL instead of 12322 CircularR) http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/NTV-Plus.html

 

[Coffeeman]

Hope you now understand the issue I'm facing
No 1st channel, no Kinoclub, no Premiera and so on[DOUBLEPOST=1422037643][/DOUBLEPOST]By the way, will it be easier for you in case I'll grant you a remote access to the PC?

 

[mm1352000]

the question to @mm1352000 - can you explain why the transponder can deliver the channels that are not expected for these setttings?

User error. Most often, the user selects the wrong LNB (band) type setting.
From the scan results I might guess that Coffeeman has a 10750 MHz LNB... but he has selected the "Ku linear universal" setting which will use either 9750 or 10600 MHz LOF settings (depending on the transponder frequency).

12322 - 10600 = 1722
12456 - 1722 = 10734 (which is approximately 10750)

 

[Coffeeman]

Finally I managed to get this working. But scan setup was crazy and finally channels were found via Circular Left (?!) polarisation settings...
I attach logs just for your info

 

[mm1352000]

It looks like you enabled the LNB frequency override settings, which is probably what fixed the problem. You could have simply used the Ku Circular band type setting (instead of Ku Linear Universal).

 

[Coffeeman]

Thank you. Issue is fixed!