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sorry for the late reply. thank you very much for your response. it was very helpful, everything i needed was in that folder, even the skin images. im not at all familiar with codes but i will definitely check out this imagemagik that you mentioned. i am currently creating a skin (..and u were right about it stealing an entire week. lol) and my database is backed up in 5 places. I really appreciate all the assistance. take care and have a good one guys.