Descramble Timeout (1 Viewer)

[Erbsenkopp]

Hi,

i´ve got the problem that the timeout setting for descrambling a channel is sometimes to short. After 5 sec MP returns "Channel is srambled error"

If i test with the TT Software my cam needs sometimes 6 - 7 sec to secramble.

So, how can i chance the timeout setting of descrambling a channel ?

regards,
Erbsenkopp

 

[MPUserFromGER]

Hi Erbsenkopp,

I am experiencing a similiar issue. However, after a fresh startup of the PC it works fine but if the PC entered standby and resumed, then the scrambled channels cannot be decoded any more.

What driver version are you using? 5.0.0.2?

I don't know, if extending the timer would help but maybe there should be a retry strategy implemented. E.g. the CI interface could be reset if there is no answer and then a retry could be started... Maybe the TT media center uses such a precedure...

Hopefully any of the devs can help here out. Do you have traces/logs?

Best regards,

Andreas

 

[Erbsenkopp]

Hi Andreas,

i try to use Driver 5.x.x.x - but i always get the "No Audio / Video" error.
At scrannig MP says: No Signal.

So i went back to Driver 4.4.10.18

Regards,
Erbsenkopp

 

[MPUserFromGER]

@MP devs: Is anybody looking into this?

Why does the TVServer give up after exactly 5seconds?

Please find attached a log file of the issue

24.06.2007 19:16:34 A subch:0 set timeshift 2id:1FF video type:MPEG-2
24.06.2007 19:16:34 4 card: tuned user:htpc subchannel:0
24.06.2007 19:16:34 4 user:htpc add
24.06.2007 19:16:35 A subch:0 set timeshift 3id:200 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
24.06.2007 19:16:35 A subch:0 set timeshift 3id:201 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
24.06.2007 19:16:35 A subch:0 set timeshift 129id:203 audio lang: type:AC3
24.06.2007 19:16:35 A subch:0 stop tif
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: Tuner locked:True signal strength:74 signal quality:100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card2:htpc 1 0
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 control1:htpc 1 0
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 control2:htpc 1 0
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: StartTimeShifting 1 E:\\live1-0.ts
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: WaitForUnScrambledSignal
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:35 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:36 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler: User input detected at 24.06.2007 19:16:32, system is attended
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.NextWakeupTime: inspecting handler:GenericWakeupHandler time:31.12.9999 23:59:59
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.NextWakeupTime: inspecting handlercheduledRecordingsHandler time:31.12.9999 23:59:59
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.NextWakeupTime: inspecting handler:<dead#3> time:31.12.9999 23:59:59
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.NextWakeupTime: inspecting handlerowerSchedulerClientPlugin time:31.12.9999 23:59:59
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.DisAllowShutdown: inspecting handler GenericStandbyHandler
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.DisAllowShutdown: handler GenericStandbyHandler inspected and allows standby
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.DisAllowShutdown: inspecting handler ActiveStreamsHandler
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.DisAllowShutdown: handler ActiveStreamsHandler inspected and allows standby
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.DisAllowShutdown: inspecting handler ControllerActiveHandler
24.06.2007 19:16:37 8 PowerScheduler.DisAllowShutdown: handler ControllerActiveHandler wants to prevent standby
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:37 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:38 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:39 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:40 4 card: scrambled, sleep 100
24.06.2007 19:16:40 4 card: return scrambled
24.06.2007 19:16:40 4 card: channel is scrambled

This happens quite reproducible after resume from hibernate. I am using the TT S2-3200 with the latest driver 5.0.0.2. MP is up todate with todays SVNs.

Maybe the CAM is slower after hibernate... Maybe it would be a good idea to extend the timer to 10 seconds and if this does not help then restart the CAM...

This issue decreases the WAF a lot!!!

 

[Erbsenkopp]

Andreas

How did you get your TT running with driver 5.0.0.2 ?!?

regards,
Erbsenkopp

 

[MPUserFromGER]

Erbsenkopp:

I followed these steps:
1. Remove both TT devices (capture and video card) from Windows device manager (select "Uninstall")
2. Use the TT tool "DriverCleaner" to remove the actual driver files. This tool can be found at http://www.technotrend.de/2692/Tools___Downloads.html
(bottom of the page)
3. Download the 5.0.0.2 driver and extract the file into a temp directory
4. Now restart Windows
5. Windows recognizes the TT card again but asks for the driver
6. Select manual install and "search in directory..."
7. Point the Windows installer to the temp directory with the new driver
8. Windows installs just one device "TT S2-3200"
9. Now you have to open the TVE3 setup again and reconfigure everything...
10. Make sure you have not selected "Reinit tuners after standby" in the PowerScheduler plugin of the TVE server.

That works quite well for me except for the fact that scrambled channels do not work after resuming from hibernate.

BTW: I use hibernate, not standby, because it is more stable.

 

[Erbsenkopp]

Hi Andreas,

thank you for your answer but, i do it so like you wrote - no way.
I allways get the "No Audio/Video found" error and "No signal found" on TVSetup scanning.

regards,
Erbsenkopp

ps: i have nothing to reconfig. I only have to map the channels to the card.

 

[MPUserFromGER]

Erbsenkopp:

I thought more about the procedure and I recognized that I did something before this procedure! Please try the following procedure again:

1. Uninstall TVServer and TVServer Plugin
2. Restart Windows (now without any TV in MP)
3. Remove both TT devices (capture and video card) from Windows device manager (select "Uninstall")
4. Use the TT tool "DriverCleaner" to remove the actual driver files. This tool can be found at http://www.technotrend.de/2692/Tools___Downloads.html
(bottom of the page)
5. Download the 5.0.0.2 driver and extract the file into a temp directory
6. Now restart Windows (it comes up then without the TT card and without TVE)
7. Windows recognizes the TT card again but asks for the driver
8. Select manual install and "search in directory..."
9. Point the Windows installer to the temp directory with the new driver
10. Windows installs just one device "TT S2-3200"
11. Restart Windows
12. Install TVE and TVE Plugin again
13. Now you have to open the TVE3 setup again and reconfigure everything...
14. Make sure you have not selected "Reinit tuners after standby" in the PowerScheduler plugin of the TVE server.

Does this work?

 

[Erbsenkopp]

Andreas

hi, no way - same result.

But i´m wrong. TVE3 say "Nothing Found", not "No Signal" at scanning.

Now i will compare the canning log of both drivers.

regards,
Erbsenkopp

 

[MPUserFromGER]

Hi,

is there any update on this?

I always have the problem that after hibernate, the scrambled channels do not work. MP gives me the message "channel is scrambled". If I restart the TVServer, sometimes it works but sometimes I have to eject the Smartcard before it works again.
If I use the TT media Center, I do not have these problems. So I think the way MP accesses the CI interface of the TT S2-3200 with the new driver 5.0.0.2 makes some problems.

Can anyone from the devs have a look into this?

Bets regards,

Andreas