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<blockquote data-quote="Snoopy87" data-source="post: 1051966" data-attributes="member: 128461"><p>As said, the problem is, that it is not userfriendly if the user has to know which channels have to be selected. Please think of all those users who are not experts! A software should be always easy and user friendly and comfortable! MediaPortal is not a special professional software for experts and linux console nerds! ;-) A software should make life easier and not harder. So the user doesn't want to know what to do to just simply get EPG data. Also he doesn't want to always configure it everytime a new channel has been added or removed or changed the transponder, etc.</p><p></p><p>Also what if the provider does not offering EPG data for ALL channels? Do every provider offering EPG data for all channels on each channel? For example: Sky Germany. All my set top boxes I had only showed the EPG data for the Sky channels, which were on the same transponder, so I had to tune to a channel on each transponder Sky uses to get all EPG data.</p><p></p><p>Then, as said, in Germany we have soooo many different providers! And by the way: What does "provider" mean? For example RTL Television has channels which are not labeled with "RTL" as provider. There are channels which are labeled with CBS Sat, or also other channels from other providers are provided by SES Astra, etc. pp. So if you have 10 channels from "RTL Television" in your groups, it may not be enough to just select one of those channels for grabbing EPG data.</p><p></p><p>So we have ARD and ZDF in Germany (which may offering the EPG data for all their different channels, which is more than 25-50 or so, I never counted them!). Then we have "Sat.1 ProSieben Media Group" which offering channels like Sat.1, ProSieben, ProSieben Maxx, kabeleinsclassic, N24, and all those channels in HD too. But not all those channels are listed with the same provider.</p><p></p><p>Then we have a lot of channels from Sky Germany. But a lot of them are not listed with "Sky" as provider, because they provided by their own or other providers. And so on.</p><p></p><p>So at the end the user have to find out all channels which have to be selected to get the EPG data for all grouped channels. This may take at least one, full day! And a few other days, because it is a rule that something like this will not work 100% at the first time, so there will be a few channels you have missed and have to find out which channels have to be selected too.</p><p></p><p>This is really the wrong way and I never heard of something strange like this.</p><p></p><p>So it is really, really totally easy to get his work as every user would expect:</p><p></p><p>The epg grabber tunes to a channel in the list of selected channels and grabs the EPG data. If it gets the EPG data for other channels too, then it also stores those data. If the epg grabber comes to channels in the list, where the EPG data were already stored, it has to skip those channels! This may a very little code change (maybe a few code lines, maybe only one new if-statement).</p><p></p><p>Also as said, there is already an option called "Always try to update existing entries". Only if this option is enabled the EPG grabber should grab and overwrite existing EPG data! Otherwise this option makes no sense, because it seems to be ignored!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snoopy87, post: 1051966, member: 128461"] As said, the problem is, that it is not userfriendly if the user has to know which channels have to be selected. Please think of all those users who are not experts! A software should be always easy and user friendly and comfortable! MediaPortal is not a special professional software for experts and linux console nerds! ;-) A software should make life easier and not harder. So the user doesn't want to know what to do to just simply get EPG data. Also he doesn't want to always configure it everytime a new channel has been added or removed or changed the transponder, etc. Also what if the provider does not offering EPG data for ALL channels? Do every provider offering EPG data for all channels on each channel? For example: Sky Germany. All my set top boxes I had only showed the EPG data for the Sky channels, which were on the same transponder, so I had to tune to a channel on each transponder Sky uses to get all EPG data. Then, as said, in Germany we have soooo many different providers! And by the way: What does "provider" mean? For example RTL Television has channels which are not labeled with "RTL" as provider. There are channels which are labeled with CBS Sat, or also other channels from other providers are provided by SES Astra, etc. pp. So if you have 10 channels from "RTL Television" in your groups, it may not be enough to just select one of those channels for grabbing EPG data. So we have ARD and ZDF in Germany (which may offering the EPG data for all their different channels, which is more than 25-50 or so, I never counted them!). Then we have "Sat.1 ProSieben Media Group" which offering channels like Sat.1, ProSieben, ProSieben Maxx, kabeleinsclassic, N24, and all those channels in HD too. But not all those channels are listed with the same provider. Then we have a lot of channels from Sky Germany. But a lot of them are not listed with "Sky" as provider, because they provided by their own or other providers. And so on. So at the end the user have to find out all channels which have to be selected to get the EPG data for all grouped channels. This may take at least one, full day! And a few other days, because it is a rule that something like this will not work 100% at the first time, so there will be a few channels you have missed and have to find out which channels have to be selected too. This is really the wrong way and I never heard of something strange like this. So it is really, really totally easy to get his work as every user would expect: The epg grabber tunes to a channel in the list of selected channels and grabs the EPG data. If it gets the EPG data for other channels too, then it also stores those data. If the epg grabber comes to channels in the list, where the EPG data were already stored, it has to skip those channels! This may a very little code change (maybe a few code lines, maybe only one new if-statement). Also as said, there is already an option called "Always try to update existing entries". Only if this option is enabled the EPG grabber should grab and overwrite existing EPG data! Otherwise this option makes no sense, because it seems to be ignored! [/QUOTE]
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