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<blockquote data-quote="Kotik" data-source="post: 1196520" data-attributes="member: 89825"><p>Well its not fast actually, prior posting this issue i spent 2 straight days troubleshooting and reading various forums. Meanwhile i did 2 fresh windows installations, 7 x64 and 8 x64 to try out different environments, also tried out different software (dvb dream, progdvb) and no matter what i tried gave me the same results, heavily pixelated picture with sound hiccups. It is 99% the current PCI to PCIe bridge.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]182357[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]182358[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>As u can see next to the PCI Interface there is the bridge chip which will hook the PCI to the available PCIe lane of the mobo, all new gen Intel mobos are coming out without Native PCI support since a coupe of years now. Now that doesnt mean that all of them do not properly support PCI, but it all comes down to the bridge chip model and ur current PCI card. Mostly PCI cards that require lots of bandwidth or low latency will have issues. I found many examples of the same issue on some Audiophile forum where people are still using the good old PCI sound cards for their studio conversion needs. It also depends on other factors, example how many other interfaces the mobo manufacturer hooked to the PCIe lane, since the lanes are limited, especially in SoC architecture (Intel Braswell offers 4 PCIe lanes).</p><p></p><p>If u add the fact that my SkyStar HD2 is working fine on my old mobo then and that i don't touch anything else besides changing the mobo, same card, same dish, same settings, different mobo <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> and many complains regarding similar issues across the net<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>In any case [USER=82144]@mm1352000[/USER] i decided that i will not take any more risks and go for a PCIe TV card. I am between these two:</p><p></p><p>1. <a href="http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs6902-dvb-s2-dual-tuner-pcie-card.html" target="_blank">TBS6902</a></p><p><a href="http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs6902-dvb-s2-dual-tuner-pcie-card.html" target="_blank"></a></p><p>2. <a href="http://www.dvbsky.net/Products_S950V3.html" target="_blank">DVBSky S950</a></p><p><a href="http://www.dvbsky.net/Products_S950V3.html" target="_blank"></a></p><p>On the other thread u mention (rightfully) that we don't support all the TBS cards so this is becoming a major issue for me and on the other hand we mention in the wiki that DVBSky has no motor support although i found a thread (in which u btw participated) that shows different results compared to our wiki, apparently a user got this card and his motor was working fine, not only it was working it was working even better than my current SkyStar HD2 (SkyStar HD2 is able to move the dish but will time out after movement). I do agree with u, the wiki is a mess, not all of it but the TV Card Compatibility part is!!! I am unable to find the thread but i was reading it yesterday and the owner of the card clearly states that it is working perfectly fine with no time outs if u increase the tune time outs in mp config. But then again i also found another post where u clearly state that motor support is not working on DVBSky cards.</p><p></p><p>I am absolutely confused and i really need a solution, as we all do i guess hehehe</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kotik, post: 1196520, member: 89825"] Well its not fast actually, prior posting this issue i spent 2 straight days troubleshooting and reading various forums. Meanwhile i did 2 fresh windows installations, 7 x64 and 8 x64 to try out different environments, also tried out different software (dvb dream, progdvb) and no matter what i tried gave me the same results, heavily pixelated picture with sound hiccups. It is 99% the current PCI to PCIe bridge. [ATTACH]182357[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]182358[/ATTACH] As u can see next to the PCI Interface there is the bridge chip which will hook the PCI to the available PCIe lane of the mobo, all new gen Intel mobos are coming out without Native PCI support since a coupe of years now. Now that doesnt mean that all of them do not properly support PCI, but it all comes down to the bridge chip model and ur current PCI card. Mostly PCI cards that require lots of bandwidth or low latency will have issues. I found many examples of the same issue on some Audiophile forum where people are still using the good old PCI sound cards for their studio conversion needs. It also depends on other factors, example how many other interfaces the mobo manufacturer hooked to the PCIe lane, since the lanes are limited, especially in SoC architecture (Intel Braswell offers 4 PCIe lanes). If u add the fact that my SkyStar HD2 is working fine on my old mobo then and that i don't touch anything else besides changing the mobo, same card, same dish, same settings, different mobo :) and many complains regarding similar issues across the net:) In any case [USER=82144]@mm1352000[/USER] i decided that i will not take any more risks and go for a PCIe TV card. I am between these two: 1. [URL='http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs6902-dvb-s2-dual-tuner-pcie-card.html']TBS6902 [/URL] 2. [URL='http://www.dvbsky.net/Products_S950V3.html']DVBSky S950 [/URL] On the other thread u mention (rightfully) that we don't support all the TBS cards so this is becoming a major issue for me and on the other hand we mention in the wiki that DVBSky has no motor support although i found a thread (in which u btw participated) that shows different results compared to our wiki, apparently a user got this card and his motor was working fine, not only it was working it was working even better than my current SkyStar HD2 (SkyStar HD2 is able to move the dish but will time out after movement). I do agree with u, the wiki is a mess, not all of it but the TV Card Compatibility part is!!! I am unable to find the thread but i was reading it yesterday and the owner of the card clearly states that it is working perfectly fine with no time outs if u increase the tune time outs in mp config. But then again i also found another post where u clearly state that motor support is not working on DVBSky cards. I am absolutely confused and i really need a solution, as we all do i guess hehehe [/QUOTE]
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