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EPG (both DVB and WebEPH) stopped working?
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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1192601" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hello and welcome Chris <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I confirm that's roughly correct.</p><p></p><p></p><p>TV Server has no cache for EPG data, so there is no possible explanation in that direction.</p><p></p><p>If (...and this is a <strong>huge </strong>IF!) TV Server is responsible for this delay, the only plausible explanation I can come with would be as follows...</p><p></p><p>Updating EPG updating can be a resource-intensive task, so in most cases the import process runs as a background task. The intention behind that is to avoid stalling/overloading the system. As a result EPG data updates over time, not in one big hit. If you were starting with zero EPG data and using MediaPortal you'd be able to see the guide filling in progressively channel by channel. Unless you have a <em>lot</em> of channels and/or many days worth of data, the import shouldn't take much more than a few minutes. Obviously the more channels you have, the longer it will take.</p><p></p><p>Now, the order of updates for channels is not guaranteed. The channels you're attempting to fix could be first... or they could be last. Furthermore, if most of the channels already have correct data, you probably wouldn't even notice them being updated. Therefore to me it seems very plausible that you may <em>think</em> nothing is happening for some time (ie. there's some random delay), but in reality [with the greatest respect <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ] you may just be expecting too much and/or not being patient enough. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>If this behaviour is a significant nuisance for you and you want to take this further, you'll need to reproduce the situation with MediaPortal and provide relevant detail (log files, screenshots etc.). I'm completely unable to assist with KODI or KODI's TV Server plugin.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it's not possible for me to help with KODI, and again I'd be happy to assist if you can reproduce with MediaPortal.</p><p></p><p>Please be aware that clicking "refresh DVB EPG" will cause <strong>all</strong> EPG data to be deleted. Considering the delay you've reported in seeing EPG data updated in KODI, the combination of this refresh function and the KODI cache could be a partial explanation for why you see no EPG data.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's basically impossible to help with this part of the problem with zero log files and zero knowledge of your EPG settings.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps all your EPG data has been coming from the WebEPG plugin?</p><p>Then:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">No activity could be normal.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Your EPG data disappeared because you clicked "refresh DVB EPG".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You haven't done a WebEPG import after refreshing.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">==> no data</li> </ol><p></p><p></p><p>Not really. That's partly because you're using KODI, but mostly because while you've described the problems really well, you haven't provided the detail (screenshots of settings, full log files etc.) that would be needed to really understand what's going on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Unlikely.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPG data is stored in TV Server's database - which is either a MySQL or SQL Server database - along with almost all other TV Server settings and data (channels, schedules etc.). Therefore you won't be able to locate a file on your HDD that you could simply open and view/edit with a text editor or web browser. Investigating would require that you install an appropriate database editor tool for a start, and you'd probably need to learn some rudimentary <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL" target="_blank">SQL</a> in order to actually examine the contents of the database. If you're confident with technology and insist that you want to go down this route then feel free to do that and see what you can dig up. EPG data is stored in the Program table, linked to channels (Channel table) through the channel identifier (IdChannel). It's not practical to provide more detailed instructions or explanation.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1192601, member: 82144"] Hello and welcome Chris :) Yes, I confirm that's roughly correct. TV Server has no cache for EPG data, so there is no possible explanation in that direction. If (...and this is a [B]huge [/B]IF!) TV Server is responsible for this delay, the only plausible explanation I can come with would be as follows... Updating EPG updating can be a resource-intensive task, so in most cases the import process runs as a background task. The intention behind that is to avoid stalling/overloading the system. As a result EPG data updates over time, not in one big hit. If you were starting with zero EPG data and using MediaPortal you'd be able to see the guide filling in progressively channel by channel. Unless you have a [I]lot[/I] of channels and/or many days worth of data, the import shouldn't take much more than a few minutes. Obviously the more channels you have, the longer it will take. Now, the order of updates for channels is not guaranteed. The channels you're attempting to fix could be first... or they could be last. Furthermore, if most of the channels already have correct data, you probably wouldn't even notice them being updated. Therefore to me it seems very plausible that you may [I]think[/I] nothing is happening for some time (ie. there's some random delay), but in reality [with the greatest respect :) ] you may just be expecting too much and/or not being patient enough. :) If this behaviour is a significant nuisance for you and you want to take this further, you'll need to reproduce the situation with MediaPortal and provide relevant detail (log files, screenshots etc.). I'm completely unable to assist with KODI or KODI's TV Server plugin. Again, it's not possible for me to help with KODI, and again I'd be happy to assist if you can reproduce with MediaPortal. Please be aware that clicking "refresh DVB EPG" will cause [B]all[/B] EPG data to be deleted. Considering the delay you've reported in seeing EPG data updated in KODI, the combination of this refresh function and the KODI cache could be a partial explanation for why you see no EPG data. It's basically impossible to help with this part of the problem with zero log files and zero knowledge of your EPG settings. Perhaps all your EPG data has been coming from the WebEPG plugin? Then: [LIST=1] [*]No activity could be normal. [*]Your EPG data disappeared because you clicked "refresh DVB EPG". [*]You haven't done a WebEPG import after refreshing. [*]==> no data [/LIST] Not really. That's partly because you're using KODI, but mostly because while you've described the problems really well, you haven't provided the detail (screenshots of settings, full log files etc.) that would be needed to really understand what's going on. Unlikely. EPG data is stored in TV Server's database - which is either a MySQL or SQL Server database - along with almost all other TV Server settings and data (channels, schedules etc.). Therefore you won't be able to locate a file on your HDD that you could simply open and view/edit with a text editor or web browser. Investigating would require that you install an appropriate database editor tool for a start, and you'd probably need to learn some rudimentary [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL']SQL[/URL] in order to actually examine the contents of the database. If you're confident with technology and insist that you want to go down this route then feel free to do that and see what you can dig up. EPG data is stored in the Program table, linked to channels (Channel table) through the channel identifier (IdChannel). It's not practical to provide more detailed instructions or explanation. Regards, mm [/QUOTE]
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