everything stutters in MP, but plays fine without MP (1 Viewer)

mm1352000

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    Hi again Snatz

    I see *tons* of dropped frames in the evr renderer logs, and also many discontinuities and late frames in TsReader. Is it possible you simply have bad quality signal? The alternative might be a networking or firewall/virus scanner problem. We need to figure out whether the problem is also on the TV Server side but TV Server logs aren't included since you're running a multi-seat system. Can you please test with TV Server (I can't help with Argus) and then post logs:

    1. Open TV Server configuration.
    2. Click open log folder in the top left hand corner.
    3. Zip all the files you find there and post them here.

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    Make sure you are using driver 11.4 for gpu, there have been issues with newer.

    Open MP config\plugins and select ftr tv, select config which should look like this.

    sshot-1.jpg

    Are you running comskip during recording or post recording, better after recording.

    After that have you any programs installed that could be monitoring folders, i would even turn off indexing.

    Have you got separate partitions on the HDD, if so copy a large file from 1 to the other, whats the transfer speed like.

    My setup is similar ie Argus + FTR and no problems here,, and as video is affected as well, tv is a red herring, so its something
    systemwide we need to find.

    ps check hdd fragmentation, if really bad could cause a problem as well.
     

    snatz

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    Hi again Snatz
    Is it possible you simply have bad quality signal?
    As far as I know signal and cable are fine. Is there a way I can test my signal?

    Maby my Terratec Cinergy C HD isn't functioning well? Tried all drivers, only BDA drivers 601 and 701 work here.

    The alternative might be a networking or firewall/virus scanner problem.
    No I uninstalled Microsoft Security Essentials. I have no network with other PC's or something, but yes I have internet (not wifi but by cable). Maby it has something to do with MySQL ???? I did a Typical install of MySQL server 5.5

    We need to figure out whether the problem is also on the TV Server side but TV Server logs aren't included since you're running a multi-seat system. Can you please test with TV Server (I can't help with Argus) and then post logs
    Last week I uninstalled MP TV-Server. I am using FTR. I will reinstall MP TV-Server asap and post the logs this weekend.

    As far as I know I am single seat.


    Make sure you are using driver 11.4 for gpu, there have been issues with newer.
    Hmm strange didn't know that. I use the latest. I will try to roll back.

    Open MP config\plugins and select ftr tv, select config which should look like this.
    "Prefer RTSP streaming for live TV" was enabled. I disabled it now. The stuttering isn't over :( It's different per channel.

    Are you running comskip during recording or post recording, better after recording.
    No I am not using Comskip. What is that exactly?

    Indexing and defragmentation schedule was already turned off.

    Have you got separate partitions on the HDD, if so copy a large file from 1 to the other, whats the transfer speed like.
    Yes 2 partitions. C: with system, MP, MySQL and 4TR. And D: with movies. Transfer speed is about 30MB/second.
     

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    No I am not using Comskip. What is that exactly?

    Using it will skip advertisements.

    Still think the best bet is driver, dxva keeps getting broken.

    Just as a matter of interest how is your recording folder setup.

    my folders are

    E:\Recorded TV

    E:\Recorded TV\Timeshift
     

    snatz

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    Still think the best bet is driver, dxva keeps getting broken.

    Which driver? Do you mean my DVB-C card (DBA driver Terratec) or my graphics card (Catalyst 11.4) ??

    Just as a matter of interest how is your recording folder setup.

    Recordings = D:\Recordings (however till so far I didn't do a recording because playback is awful)
    Timeshift = C:\Users\Public\Videos\For The Record Timeshift (original 4TR setting, if I timeshift to an other partition the TV still stutters)
     

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    Which driver? Do you mean my DVB-C card (DBA driver Terratec) or my graphics card (Catalyst 11.4) ??

    Only gpu

    Timeshift = C:\Users\Public\Videos\For The Record Timeshift (original 4TR setting,

    Timeshift folder has always been recommended to be inside recorded folder. on same drive, otherwise you are getting more read\write's to drive.
     

    snatz

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    gpu 11.4 and your foldersettings did an improvement to my HTPC

    movies go ok and some tv-channels are fine now :)

    however the stuttering is not gone, most about 70% of the channels is not playing fine for watching, too many stutter :(
    the stutter all the time is now in the sound then screen then pauzes for a sec and then fast forwards to realtime

    codecsettings in MP for TV are:
    Microsoft DTV-DVD Decoder
    Microsoft DTV-DVD Decoder
    LAV
    LAV
    LAV
    Default DirectSound Device

    maby something with LAV audio decoder ?
    do I have to config things manually?
     

    snatz

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    Could it be may ATI card?

    On several forum is written that ATI is not able to display h264 channels well (glitches/corruption). Think that may be the problem. I will try Nvidea though.
     

    Tony B

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    I too am having problems with video stuttering in MP. If I go to the folder and play in Windows Media Player, it plays fine. It only seems to be in MP and only in TV series using MP-TV Series plugin. When I play a dvd file .vob file, in MP it lloks fine. When I play the .mkv tv series file, it stutters. (also audio is fine)

    I have attached a log file...

    Help, Please!
     

    mm1352000

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    Hi Tony B

    What I see in your logs is:
    1. The video is h.264 - should be okay in your system.
    2. Frame rate is 23.976 - possibly the problem as it doesn't look like you're using anything to match the frame rate with your 60 Hz monitor.
    3. The FFDShow DXVA and MPC-MPA audio codecs aren't being used (seems they can't handle the format). Instead, the FFDShow audio and Microsoft DTV-DVD video codecs are being used.

    I suspect that this is a refresh rate matching issue or codec issue.

    mm
     

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