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<blockquote data-quote="MadMac66" data-source="post: 538756" data-attributes="member: 24436"><p>For me from User perspective I am unsatisfied until now. I only have two choices:</p><p>1. I'm the lucky "look-every-day-for-updates-and-new-skins/plugins". Okay, I go to <a href="http://www.team-media-portal.com" target="_blank">www.team-media-portal.com</a> and read the news about new and updated skins and plugins. But this is geek-driven. </p><p>2. I'm the normal couch potatoe who installed once MP and only use the old installer maybe once a month or even less. Going this way I only see a few updates and only a very few new skins. So I'm missing maybe the "killer-plugin of the year" or the "best ever made skin" because it doesn't show in the installer.</p><p></p><p>So looking the the 1st way means download the new item and install as zip (I've learned how to use it and maybe break my MP because of incompatibilities not solved) or using the installer, wondering why it doesn't support my skin. Most of the time I'm able to fix it anyway because I'm with MP since early days and learned it the hard way by re-installing MP about 30 to 40 times. BUT THIS IS NOT THE COMMON WAY TO USE MP. Or at least it hinders it to become more mainstream.</p><p></p><p>Okay, the 2nd way is how the mainstream works. Has anybody of you tried to install a "Full featured" MP with many plugins? This sometimes is hardcore. First you have to manually download all the needed / wanted plugins and skins. Some of them still lack of good instruction and you have to browse through the whole site to find everything. And more annoying: Some came as MPEI or MPE some as ZIP and some in both flavors meaning I as a normal user have to decide which version to use or both of them (and some don't even use versioning)? hard to decide.</p><p></p><p>Therefor a common well integrated installer inside MP is very important to spread MP as a whole to the community. We as the users don't care about whether installer type 1, 2 or 3 is the best. But until now there is no installer which makes it possible to do the job. And if I have a common interface showing me what the plugin does or how the skin will look like this will help much and to go to the top if I can switch to "advanced install" to see the new / modified / deleted files this installer comes close to be perfect.</p><p></p><p>So I very much appreciate Dukus approach to create THE installer for MP because when I want to update/upgrade MP or look for new stuff I simply want to run the installer and see everything and when I choose an item to be installed/updated/removed I want to click on that item and everything should be done in the background. I don't want to look into every skin to delete/update the files. This was one of the reasons why apple got the nimbus to be that user friendly...</p><p></p><p>And as a dev I only want to have one way to spread my work as easy as possible and never the less make sure not to break something. My personal experience with installers was that of course you can use stuff like NSIS or MSI to get things for YOUR PART of software done but only with a centralized installer you can make sure that ALL dependencies of ALL parts of MP (main core, Plugins and skins) are covered.</p><p></p><p>But of course maybe I'm wrong <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite10" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /></p><p></p><p>MadMac66</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadMac66, post: 538756, member: 24436"] For me from User perspective I am unsatisfied until now. I only have two choices: 1. I'm the lucky "look-every-day-for-updates-and-new-skins/plugins". Okay, I go to [url]www.team-media-portal.com[/url] and read the news about new and updated skins and plugins. But this is geek-driven. 2. I'm the normal couch potatoe who installed once MP and only use the old installer maybe once a month or even less. Going this way I only see a few updates and only a very few new skins. So I'm missing maybe the "killer-plugin of the year" or the "best ever made skin" because it doesn't show in the installer. So looking the the 1st way means download the new item and install as zip (I've learned how to use it and maybe break my MP because of incompatibilities not solved) or using the installer, wondering why it doesn't support my skin. Most of the time I'm able to fix it anyway because I'm with MP since early days and learned it the hard way by re-installing MP about 30 to 40 times. BUT THIS IS NOT THE COMMON WAY TO USE MP. Or at least it hinders it to become more mainstream. Okay, the 2nd way is how the mainstream works. Has anybody of you tried to install a "Full featured" MP with many plugins? This sometimes is hardcore. First you have to manually download all the needed / wanted plugins and skins. Some of them still lack of good instruction and you have to browse through the whole site to find everything. And more annoying: Some came as MPEI or MPE some as ZIP and some in both flavors meaning I as a normal user have to decide which version to use or both of them (and some don't even use versioning)? hard to decide. Therefor a common well integrated installer inside MP is very important to spread MP as a whole to the community. We as the users don't care about whether installer type 1, 2 or 3 is the best. But until now there is no installer which makes it possible to do the job. And if I have a common interface showing me what the plugin does or how the skin will look like this will help much and to go to the top if I can switch to "advanced install" to see the new / modified / deleted files this installer comes close to be perfect. So I very much appreciate Dukus approach to create THE installer for MP because when I want to update/upgrade MP or look for new stuff I simply want to run the installer and see everything and when I choose an item to be installed/updated/removed I want to click on that item and everything should be done in the background. I don't want to look into every skin to delete/update the files. This was one of the reasons why apple got the nimbus to be that user friendly... And as a dev I only want to have one way to spread my work as easy as possible and never the less make sure not to break something. My personal experience with installers was that of course you can use stuff like NSIS or MSI to get things for YOUR PART of software done but only with a centralized installer you can make sure that ALL dependencies of ALL parts of MP (main core, Plugins and skins) are covered. But of course maybe I'm wrong :oops: MadMac66 [/QUOTE]
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