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<blockquote data-quote="joboehl" data-source="post: 123724" data-attributes="member: 23490"><p>janjuul, </p><p></p><p>I think you missed the point on the new TvEngine. It's not called Client-Server Engine. Is called NEW TvEngine. It's made to overcome most of the limitations of the old engine. </p><p></p><p>If you whant to used single-seat. Great!!!! Probably most people will use it that way. If you whant to have multiple computers, even better !!!! You can do that too. If you whant to use cheap and limited media extenders, this move is necessary if one day someone whant to make them work with MP. Apparently you are confused about the client-server software architechture and a network environment with a client machine and a server machine. Those are two different things. MCE for example always had a client-server architecture, but you never had the option of using it with more than one computer. </p><p></p><p>Re-read the post's about the new tv-engine and what it brings to the table. I think you completly missed the point on it. It's being rewritten so features like DVB subtitles, DVB-S2, recording without MP being active, stability and etc can be achieved in a better way. Not only for you to put a computer in the kitchen, altough it allows you to do it if you want. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Most of your complaints are inacurrate:</p><p></p><p>- STBs are supported for quite some time now. Using it since the beginning. </p><p>- DVB subtitles are supported. Don't know if the plug-ins is already showing, but the server handles then for quite some time now. </p><p>- Comparing GBPVR with MP is almost pointless at this point. A stable 2+ years released product versus a -6months old beta1 version. Devs already made clear that no stable version should be expecter in less than 3-4 months. Do you expect rock solid lightning fast software on a beta1 stage? People are just starting to hit the problems for them to fix. How can it be ready? You mentioned channel changing time. That's one example. People are bringing it up, devs are fixing. That's the process. Don't whant to be a beta tester, whant rock solid stability? TvEngine is not for you (yet). </p><p>- We all whant stability. But the software must be complete before it becomes stable. devs already mentioned that you should not exepct a stable version in less than 3 months. The last stable version of MP is 0.2.0.4. If you whant stability, this is the release recommended. </p><p></p><p>So, in fact. Everything you are complaining about is why devs decided to rewrite the engine the way they are doing !!!! You are asking for the engine and all that it brings to the table. You just don't whant to wait for it to be ready. You went to a shop to buy a car, saw a prototype with some engineers working on it and is complaining that you can't do a coast-to-coast trip because.... it's a prototype!!!!! Wait for the car to be ready !!!! if you can't wait, buy the other more limited one. That's a matter of timing. </p><p></p><p>And as a side note. I find your post offensive when you mention so many times the "nerd environment". The beauty about Open source and this project is that people build the software for what they need. I live in a country where I can't buy those little media extenders that you mentioned and a XBOX cost's about US$ 1.500!!!! God yes, I whan't to be able to have an option to build a PC and used it in other room. I want to be able to check on the news when I'am at the office working without having another device+tv thing. </p><p></p><p>And also, your post was not constructive:</p><p></p><p>- You asked features already supported (STB, subtitles)</p><p>- You ask for things that would only be supported by changes that are being implemented by the new engine (different front-ends). </p><p>- You ask for stability and performance of a beta code without posting your problems and how you use it and where is it broken or slow. </p><p>- You compare a 2+year old product with a 6+months old beta1 code. </p><p></p><p>And concluding. If you use MP for more than 8 months (longer than me), how come you have only one post? You should post more, ask more, help more. For a first post, this was not a good one. Maybe if you posted more, you would be using your STB for quite some time now. </p><p></p><p>cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joboehl, post: 123724, member: 23490"] janjuul, I think you missed the point on the new TvEngine. It's not called Client-Server Engine. Is called NEW TvEngine. It's made to overcome most of the limitations of the old engine. If you whant to used single-seat. Great!!!! Probably most people will use it that way. If you whant to have multiple computers, even better !!!! You can do that too. If you whant to use cheap and limited media extenders, this move is necessary if one day someone whant to make them work with MP. Apparently you are confused about the client-server software architechture and a network environment with a client machine and a server machine. Those are two different things. MCE for example always had a client-server architecture, but you never had the option of using it with more than one computer. Re-read the post's about the new tv-engine and what it brings to the table. I think you completly missed the point on it. It's being rewritten so features like DVB subtitles, DVB-S2, recording without MP being active, stability and etc can be achieved in a better way. Not only for you to put a computer in the kitchen, altough it allows you to do it if you want. Most of your complaints are inacurrate: - STBs are supported for quite some time now. Using it since the beginning. - DVB subtitles are supported. Don't know if the plug-ins is already showing, but the server handles then for quite some time now. - Comparing GBPVR with MP is almost pointless at this point. A stable 2+ years released product versus a -6months old beta1 version. Devs already made clear that no stable version should be expecter in less than 3-4 months. Do you expect rock solid lightning fast software on a beta1 stage? People are just starting to hit the problems for them to fix. How can it be ready? You mentioned channel changing time. That's one example. People are bringing it up, devs are fixing. That's the process. Don't whant to be a beta tester, whant rock solid stability? TvEngine is not for you (yet). - We all whant stability. But the software must be complete before it becomes stable. devs already mentioned that you should not exepct a stable version in less than 3 months. The last stable version of MP is 0.2.0.4. If you whant stability, this is the release recommended. So, in fact. Everything you are complaining about is why devs decided to rewrite the engine the way they are doing !!!! You are asking for the engine and all that it brings to the table. You just don't whant to wait for it to be ready. You went to a shop to buy a car, saw a prototype with some engineers working on it and is complaining that you can't do a coast-to-coast trip because.... it's a prototype!!!!! Wait for the car to be ready !!!! if you can't wait, buy the other more limited one. That's a matter of timing. And as a side note. I find your post offensive when you mention so many times the "nerd environment". The beauty about Open source and this project is that people build the software for what they need. I live in a country where I can't buy those little media extenders that you mentioned and a XBOX cost's about US$ 1.500!!!! God yes, I whan't to be able to have an option to build a PC and used it in other room. I want to be able to check on the news when I'am at the office working without having another device+tv thing. And also, your post was not constructive: - You asked features already supported (STB, subtitles) - You ask for things that would only be supported by changes that are being implemented by the new engine (different front-ends). - You ask for stability and performance of a beta code without posting your problems and how you use it and where is it broken or slow. - You compare a 2+year old product with a 6+months old beta1 code. And concluding. If you use MP for more than 8 months (longer than me), how come you have only one post? You should post more, ask more, help more. For a first post, this was not a good one. Maybe if you posted more, you would be using your STB for quite some time now. cheers. [/QUOTE]
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