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<blockquote data-quote="joboehl" data-source="post: 123893" data-attributes="member: 23490"><p>Janjull, I'am only taking about V3. Everything I mentioned as supported is supported in V3. STB IS supported and I use it as mentioned (<a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/help_setting_up_set_top_box_and-t12236p7.html?highlight=serverblaster)" target="_blank">https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/help_setting_up_set_top_box_and-t12236p7.html?highlight=serverblaster)</a>. Using serverblaster myself. I pratically never used v2 tvengine. </p><p></p><p>As for DVB substitles, take a look at this thread: <a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/new_tv_engine_and_dvb_subtitles-t10445p2.html?highlight=subtitles" target="_blank">https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/new_tv_engine_and_dvb_subtitles-t10445p2.html?highlight=subtitles</a>. You wil notice that the server already supports the subtitles. Working is being done at the client, but keep in mind that TvEngine is not done. That's why it's beta. Just because it's not done yet doesn't mean is not going to happen. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good. Seems to be in the right direction then right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Almost like the new TVEngine. But keep the timing in mind. How long is this guy developing GBPVR? TvEngine first beta drop is less then 6 months. You can't compare the stability and performance of both at this point in time. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Janjull, in orther to support this kind of devices, the first thing you have to do is allow something external to the product to access the data (in this case, the TV stream). In other words, create the server. I haven't seem anybody here saying that TvEnginev3 is only going to be used with MP and PCs. It can be used with anything. It's extensible (plug-ins) and open source. But it need to be done first!!!! MP v2 engine could not allow anything external to MP to access the tv data. That's why it needs to be done. </p><p></p><p>The reason I find it most important about the new tvengine is exactly all the possibilities it brings. People over meedio forums are discussing if they can use it. People over XBMC forums are discussing this too. It's just a matter of time before someone starts coding bridges/services/plug-ins to allow other devices/sw to interact with the TVEngine. Withtout it, it's impossible. </p><p></p><p>So I say again, the reasons you complain about tvengine are the reasons why it's needed. That's why It's being developed. Can't understand why you are complaining. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think is a valid think to start a discussion about the future directions. I was thinking about doing it myself actually. But your post was much more about attacking and complaining then raising future directions discussion. </p><p></p><p>The points you brought (like extenders, DVB, STB) are valid and nobody is refusing to discuss then. But there are ways to approach them. </p><p></p><p>But rest assured, if someone want's to make a HauppaugeMVP work with MP, TVEngine needs to be done first. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Three out of 4 of your points (HDTV, DVB and external access to media) are being addressed in the new TV engine. (music, fotos and videos are usually addressed directly trough other protocols like UPnP and Windows Connect). So I would say they are on the right track with it. </p><p></p><p>I' am also interested in knowing where the product is moving after the TVEngine and in other areas (like music and pictures). I would like to see more community metadata in the lines the music plug-in works in the now playing screen, troughout the entire MP experience. Like viewing an review of a tv show before watching. Or only recording something if the communitty rating is about a certain level. I would also like to see a newer GUI, more responsive and attractive, in the lines of MS did with Vista. Imagine browsing your CD library like you can do with iTunes. Sure enough I would like to see XBMC and MP integration. </p><p></p><p>A forum might be needed to discuss this kind of things, but it has nothing to do with doing or not the TvEngine and it's current stability and feature set. </p><p></p><p>What I can say is that without the TvEngine, much of this things you complain about MP will not be possible. </p><p></p><p>Out of curiosity - What do you mean about second generation extenders? This term is widely used by MS to identify devices designed to work with Vista MCE. I really don't think those devices are going to work with anything other than Vista.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joboehl, post: 123893, member: 23490"] Janjull, I'am only taking about V3. Everything I mentioned as supported is supported in V3. STB IS supported and I use it as mentioned ([url]https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/help_setting_up_set_top_box_and-t12236p7.html?highlight=serverblaster)[/url]. Using serverblaster myself. I pratically never used v2 tvengine. As for DVB substitles, take a look at this thread: [url]https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/new_tv_engine_and_dvb_subtitles-t10445p2.html?highlight=subtitles[/url]. You wil notice that the server already supports the subtitles. Working is being done at the client, but keep in mind that TvEngine is not done. That's why it's beta. Just because it's not done yet doesn't mean is not going to happen. Good. Seems to be in the right direction then right? Almost like the new TVEngine. But keep the timing in mind. How long is this guy developing GBPVR? TvEngine first beta drop is less then 6 months. You can't compare the stability and performance of both at this point in time. Janjull, in orther to support this kind of devices, the first thing you have to do is allow something external to the product to access the data (in this case, the TV stream). In other words, create the server. I haven't seem anybody here saying that TvEnginev3 is only going to be used with MP and PCs. It can be used with anything. It's extensible (plug-ins) and open source. But it need to be done first!!!! MP v2 engine could not allow anything external to MP to access the tv data. That's why it needs to be done. The reason I find it most important about the new tvengine is exactly all the possibilities it brings. People over meedio forums are discussing if they can use it. People over XBMC forums are discussing this too. It's just a matter of time before someone starts coding bridges/services/plug-ins to allow other devices/sw to interact with the TVEngine. Withtout it, it's impossible. So I say again, the reasons you complain about tvengine are the reasons why it's needed. That's why It's being developed. Can't understand why you are complaining. I think is a valid think to start a discussion about the future directions. I was thinking about doing it myself actually. But your post was much more about attacking and complaining then raising future directions discussion. The points you brought (like extenders, DVB, STB) are valid and nobody is refusing to discuss then. But there are ways to approach them. But rest assured, if someone want's to make a HauppaugeMVP work with MP, TVEngine needs to be done first. Three out of 4 of your points (HDTV, DVB and external access to media) are being addressed in the new TV engine. (music, fotos and videos are usually addressed directly trough other protocols like UPnP and Windows Connect). So I would say they are on the right track with it. I' am also interested in knowing where the product is moving after the TVEngine and in other areas (like music and pictures). I would like to see more community metadata in the lines the music plug-in works in the now playing screen, troughout the entire MP experience. Like viewing an review of a tv show before watching. Or only recording something if the communitty rating is about a certain level. I would also like to see a newer GUI, more responsive and attractive, in the lines of MS did with Vista. Imagine browsing your CD library like you can do with iTunes. Sure enough I would like to see XBMC and MP integration. A forum might be needed to discuss this kind of things, but it has nothing to do with doing or not the TvEngine and it's current stability and feature set. What I can say is that without the TvEngine, much of this things you complain about MP will not be possible. Out of curiosity - What do you mean about second generation extenders? This term is widely used by MS to identify devices designed to work with Vista MCE. I really don't think those devices are going to work with anything other than Vista. [/QUOTE]
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