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<blockquote data-quote="resa" data-source="post: 1171790" data-attributes="member: 68500"><p>What a massive response <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[USER=157119]@MartyWakat[/USER] (and also to all people participating here):</p><p></p><p>First of all i have to confirm your impressions mainly, MP2 is in fact under heavy developement and of course huge efforts in development, if not the most already, is dedicated straight to enhance MP2. But also developing on MP1 is still in progress and you still find an bigger selcetion of skins, plugins and functions with MP1.</p><p></p><p>Beside the fact i was obviously being trapped by the unusual marketing-name convention for MP2 releases (things like "Summer thinigie XY" instead straight version up-numbering like used for MP1) and by the website still tells me about the project status is "Alpha 4" what all together has me accidentially overlook the fact that MP2 has already leaved alpha and is beta now ... MP2 is beta after all <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>[USER=157119]@MartyWakat[/USER] , let me be clear with you here: My intention was all other things in world, but surely not to force you leaving MP2 immediatially and at all costs and also not to bash on MP2 arbitrarily. I was only pointing for the possibility to give MP1 a try also if you fell in deeper trouble with your project. Because of that i purposely putted the section/paragraph with this specific suggestion at the end of my list and have started it with the words "Last but not least", what means: If you have tried all other ways and options, then i can confirm for MP1 is worth a try too.</p><p></p><p>Why i made this suggestion? Because i am using MediaPortal since about 2006/7 and now approaching my 10th anual being an Mediaportal-User <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> I have seen all the ups and all the downs from version to version, i have seen all the improvements was made and have faced all the big issues that treated us from time to time some years back. But since more than 3 or 4 years MP1 is constantly reliable and getting more stable with every new version. To emphasize here: We ONLY! use MP1 for ALL! media related tasks here since years, not only me, on every single day and for every single minute of watching or recording TV, listen to radio, enjoying Movies, TV-Shows and Music, streaming news and documentarys from our national stations. And if there nothing is played, we have actual news-feed and wheather on the screen all the time. There is no antenna-cable attached to any TV-Set here, but 3 of them are attached to the Multiseat-Server along GBit ethernet. So please believe me in one thing: if i expecting, no, if we requesting and demanding for one thing MePo has to accomplish, than this is that it has to be stable. And MP1 is! The long way was truly worth all of it, there is not any single Mediacenter-Software out there in the world that can compare with MP1, not in the least.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand; Sure! Of course i am checking MP2 from time to time in order to see how the development is developing so far <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> My last noticeable experience was around late summer '15 and i can use no other words than this was an catastrophal expierence for me personally. Installation failed repeatedly even on fresh and blank system, then there was no way to get any of the TVServers running properly, not the old one, not the new one and the promised possibility for paralell install them both and toggle between them was the end of the whole windows-installation <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> With the feeling of all canons are aiming on my back again, please believe me: I am really fine with that! MP2 is in development, i understand that and i am respect that. Truly i do! And i am aware about the fact, that getting MP2 running properly was and is possible, if i only find enough nerves to go deeper into it. But i haven't at the moment nor i haven't all that time to workaround it all out to get it working. But there is MP1 and it works like a charme, there is MP1 and it looks great with StreamedMP. So everything is really fine. And i can't await the day i replacing MP1 with the first acceptable stable MP2 version, but this time has to come first.</p><p></p><p>Again, [USER=157119]@MartyWakat[/USER] : Please do tryout MP2 intensively first and use all the other ways and options i have suggested you first and care about all the recommendations from other posters you will be pointed to in here. And if you feel sitting in dead end, THEN please give MP1 an try and do not switch over to another software <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I can't be more clear to wipe out the massive misunderstandings in this thread <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>My requierements and experiences on MePo are different from yours as they are different to many other peoples. Thank you and good luck again with your project.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>+1 for: if MP2 fits then there is no need to uninstall it overhasty, was also not my intention to say so.</p><p></p><p>[USER=145639]@ge2301[/USER] : I am sorry that i haven't realised that MP2 is beta already. I have no problem to stay in for my faults and i am sorry about telling it wrong. I really haven't noticed it. And this was because for these reasons, and i telling this to clarify why i was in error, not to excuse my error:</p><p></p><p>1). The naming convention that is used for MP2 releases looks unusual to me, especially compared to the straight version up-numbering that is used for MP1. When visiting the download page and reading "Version 1.13.0" on the left and "Summer '15 Update 1 Release" on the right, it seems to me like:</p><p></p><p>- On the left something is used that i can comprehend, something real, something is upcounting, something is progessing, something i can compare directly.</p><p>- On the right something is used that sounds abstract, sounds like hipster marketing term that was choosen in order to conceal something and is not directly comparable.</p><p></p><p>2). Due to the fact the real project status is somewhat more like an hidden information on the website, i tend to more believe on my own experiences instead accepting those abstract release name to be something serious. I am talking about the circumstance you have to search on subpages and among all the text using small fonts for the information that MP2 is currently alpha, beta or whatever. What kind of information is more important than the software you attempting to download is alpha, beta, pre-release, release candidate, stable, snapshot?! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>3). Even if you go on this safari to find out what status the project is currently in you will find the following information in the very first place today:</p><p></p><p>Projektstatus</p><p></p><p>MediaPortal 1:</p><p>- Download: 1.13.0</p><p>- Status: 1.13.0 Final veröffentlicht (<- transl.: finally released)</p><p></p><p>[What seems to be very accurate and actual information]</p><p></p><p>MediaPortal 2:</p><p>- Download: Alpha 4</p><p>- Status: in Entwicklung (<- transl.: in development)</p><p></p><p>[What seems to be the outdated information i trapped into here]</p><p></p><p>You can have a look on the screenshot attached to this post in order to verify this, maybe you want to correct this. I recommend you to maybe think also about an better, more transparent, way of communicate MP2's status and naming the things what they are in an more visible way, no Problem with "Summer Bummer Lolipop", if there is a small Version-Number followed by "beta" placed directly below that. There is no need to force people into MP2 by hiding some uncomfortable facts, but there is need to make this facts easily accessible to those, who are waiting for MP2 to evolute from beta. You know?</p><p></p><p>Again, don't interpret this as an cheap attempt for excuse my fault. I know that i should have gone into changelog, git-hub, sourcefroge, tracker, forum and whatever else more, to know about the real development-status in detail but i don't have done this, because MP2 is currently not relevant enough for me to investigate that deep. I promise to never rely again only on one single information that i have noticed somewhere on the main page in future if i attempt to pass such information to others here in the forum, i will try to double cross-check them first.</p><p></p><p>[USER=145639]@ge2301[/USER] and [USER=109222]@Lehmden[/USER] too: To come to an end now and AFTER ALL you should know about me: If i calling MP2 alpha instead beta this was more likely a formal mistake by me, without any intentions to rate or judge over MP2 or whatever was misunderstood in here. I always try to care about my recommendations and opinions are always based on my experiences mainly. But i also use my human right for free speech when telling my opinion and not doing any egg-dance, i prefer to be man of clear words. Especially in here, there is never any kind of offending, insultaion, disparage etc. on my mind ... but there is open, straight talking, constructive, informative, kind of cooperation and nothing more. I am living with MePo, i spreading MePo, i loving MePo, i donated MePo, i need MePo, i look pleasingly forward for next MePo versions no matter if MP1or2... so for what reason i should inadequately comply about MePo? Sometime it seems that a bit often the reactions are a bit to hypersensitive in here and a bit too often there is seen instantly an offending attack in each divergent opinion or experiences and in any reasonable criticsism. Not under every stone something bad is lurking. Don't argue with opposition, take them and turn it into constructivism. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[USER=109222]@Lehmden[/USER] : I am sorry that i have unknowingly become such an bad-a** kind of guy in your eyes over the years, that you have to escalate my shame to "a lot" <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>+1 and this was also my recommended to first try all the other resources to solve issues, not to instantly delete MP2 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfulfilled still the wishes, disowned what is proven? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p>Nein nein, little twinkle to peek you only, no real offending.</p><p></p><p>What you think about saying such things more moderate?</p><p>MP2 is the future, MP1 is the present.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ja ja, i am sorry for my mistake with that, i have overseen this, please read above for more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Honestly, i can't see the point you are concerning that harsh about me, as well as i cant see those "lot parts" where i was wrong. Ok, i am guilty for blasphemy due to call MP2 alpha and not beta, sort of present for you <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> But furthermore we are congruent in what we both have written? Is my english that bad suddenly? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So we agree both with the following: MP1-Client plugins was, can, will NEVER be useable with MP2-Client. When using MP1-Server along MP2-Client, you CAN use plugins that are created for MP1-Server. What you not directly have said, but seems to be a logic consequence, if an plugin basicially is created for the MP1-Server but also has dependencies with the MP1-Client (i.e. frontend gui-additions, i think TsBufferExtractor maybe is such an candidate) then this plugin will not work without problems in an MP1-Server+MP2-Client combo setup. since there is simply no MP1-Client. All correct?</p><p></p><p>If so, then we agreeing to each other posts in most parts and shake hands now please <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>The only thing that sounds new to me here is, that MP2-Server seems being removed from the MP2 setup somehow or i understand that wrong? What happend to MP2-Server, is development on hold only? Is it currently still possible to install MP2-Server at all? If i remember my last intensive MP2 test-session right, i was able to choose between MP1-Server or MP2-Server and also paralell installing both of them and toggling between them was called possible?! Anyway, if now MP1-Server is installed with MP2 setup in default then this affects only on my guess, that the TO presumably has not an MP1-S+MP2-C combo-setup and it now turns out, that he has tough (but i was also not completely ruled out to be possible). How the MP2-Server story continues (an link to regarding discussion-thread is enough and would be nice)?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here i maybe can pass some information over to you, that are new for you too today <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Casually i just today have installed an MP1-Server only enviroment (using the final-1.13.0 setup-exe). I have choosen advanced setup and then server only. I can confirm, that MPEI will be automatically installed too under these circumstances and is working well <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Some short Questions about this, if you have a minute (or somebody else).... Is it an good idea to use MP1-Setup for installing MP1-Server only and then using MP2-Setup for installing MP2-Client only in order to avoid the manual dll-copy etc. for getting the MPEI, what do you think? And what about MP1 single seat setup and then using MP2 only for MP2-Client install in order to use MP1+MP2-Clients on same machine on the MP1-Server, will that work out well currently?</p><p></p><p>Thanks a lot and please don't feel so heavily attacked every time someone is sharing not so perfect experiences with MP2 or recommends for MP1 depending on his experiences. Nobody is hating MP2 i think. At least i can say that i do not hate MP2 or thinking bad about it, but i can't accept its status for use as productive system currently, thats all. And this experience is all i share with others having problems with MP2, not more is in here. And like it makes no sense to bash MP2 as i was misunderstood in here today, it makes no sense to bash MP1. Additionally it makes no sense to blandish about MP2. There are users that need or prefer a rock-solid stable system, what MP1 can deliver often enough, and not cares about a bit better hardware is needed to run it smoothly. MP2 has still way to many problems and there are way to many functions/plugins are missing. If this not applys for you or others this is really fine, but here and for another others this applys. Please resepect that a bit more. Believe me that i will be the first one to switch for MP2 as soon as it is called RC and something like StreamedMP is available for it. ASAP. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks and i hope we can all together go back to normal now, nice weekend for all and the very best regards <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]174841[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="resa, post: 1171790, member: 68500"] What a massive response :p [USER=157119]@MartyWakat[/USER] (and also to all people participating here): First of all i have to confirm your impressions mainly, MP2 is in fact under heavy developement and of course huge efforts in development, if not the most already, is dedicated straight to enhance MP2. But also developing on MP1 is still in progress and you still find an bigger selcetion of skins, plugins and functions with MP1. Beside the fact i was obviously being trapped by the unusual marketing-name convention for MP2 releases (things like "Summer thinigie XY" instead straight version up-numbering like used for MP1) and by the website still tells me about the project status is "Alpha 4" what all together has me accidentially overlook the fact that MP2 has already leaved alpha and is beta now ... MP2 is beta after all ;) [USER=157119]@MartyWakat[/USER] , let me be clear with you here: My intention was all other things in world, but surely not to force you leaving MP2 immediatially and at all costs and also not to bash on MP2 arbitrarily. I was only pointing for the possibility to give MP1 a try also if you fell in deeper trouble with your project. Because of that i purposely putted the section/paragraph with this specific suggestion at the end of my list and have started it with the words "Last but not least", what means: If you have tried all other ways and options, then i can confirm for MP1 is worth a try too. Why i made this suggestion? Because i am using MediaPortal since about 2006/7 and now approaching my 10th anual being an Mediaportal-User :D I have seen all the ups and all the downs from version to version, i have seen all the improvements was made and have faced all the big issues that treated us from time to time some years back. But since more than 3 or 4 years MP1 is constantly reliable and getting more stable with every new version. To emphasize here: We ONLY! use MP1 for ALL! media related tasks here since years, not only me, on every single day and for every single minute of watching or recording TV, listen to radio, enjoying Movies, TV-Shows and Music, streaming news and documentarys from our national stations. And if there nothing is played, we have actual news-feed and wheather on the screen all the time. There is no antenna-cable attached to any TV-Set here, but 3 of them are attached to the Multiseat-Server along GBit ethernet. So please believe me in one thing: if i expecting, no, if we requesting and demanding for one thing MePo has to accomplish, than this is that it has to be stable. And MP1 is! The long way was truly worth all of it, there is not any single Mediacenter-Software out there in the world that can compare with MP1, not in the least. On the other hand; Sure! Of course i am checking MP2 from time to time in order to see how the development is developing so far ;) My last noticeable experience was around late summer '15 and i can use no other words than this was an catastrophal expierence for me personally. Installation failed repeatedly even on fresh and blank system, then there was no way to get any of the TVServers running properly, not the old one, not the new one and the promised possibility for paralell install them both and toggle between them was the end of the whole windows-installation :D With the feeling of all canons are aiming on my back again, please believe me: I am really fine with that! MP2 is in development, i understand that and i am respect that. Truly i do! And i am aware about the fact, that getting MP2 running properly was and is possible, if i only find enough nerves to go deeper into it. But i haven't at the moment nor i haven't all that time to workaround it all out to get it working. But there is MP1 and it works like a charme, there is MP1 and it looks great with StreamedMP. So everything is really fine. And i can't await the day i replacing MP1 with the first acceptable stable MP2 version, but this time has to come first. Again, [USER=157119]@MartyWakat[/USER] : Please do tryout MP2 intensively first and use all the other ways and options i have suggested you first and care about all the recommendations from other posters you will be pointed to in here. And if you feel sitting in dead end, THEN please give MP1 an try and do not switch over to another software ;) I can't be more clear to wipe out the massive misunderstandings in this thread :D My requierements and experiences on MePo are different from yours as they are different to many other peoples. Thank you and good luck again with your project. +1 for: if MP2 fits then there is no need to uninstall it overhasty, was also not my intention to say so. [USER=145639]@ge2301[/USER] : I am sorry that i haven't realised that MP2 is beta already. I have no problem to stay in for my faults and i am sorry about telling it wrong. I really haven't noticed it. And this was because for these reasons, and i telling this to clarify why i was in error, not to excuse my error: 1). The naming convention that is used for MP2 releases looks unusual to me, especially compared to the straight version up-numbering that is used for MP1. When visiting the download page and reading "Version 1.13.0" on the left and "Summer '15 Update 1 Release" on the right, it seems to me like: - On the left something is used that i can comprehend, something real, something is upcounting, something is progessing, something i can compare directly. - On the right something is used that sounds abstract, sounds like hipster marketing term that was choosen in order to conceal something and is not directly comparable. 2). Due to the fact the real project status is somewhat more like an hidden information on the website, i tend to more believe on my own experiences instead accepting those abstract release name to be something serious. I am talking about the circumstance you have to search on subpages and among all the text using small fonts for the information that MP2 is currently alpha, beta or whatever. What kind of information is more important than the software you attempting to download is alpha, beta, pre-release, release candidate, stable, snapshot?! ;) 3). Even if you go on this safari to find out what status the project is currently in you will find the following information in the very first place today: Projektstatus MediaPortal 1: - Download: 1.13.0 - Status: 1.13.0 Final veröffentlicht (<- transl.: finally released) [What seems to be very accurate and actual information] MediaPortal 2: - Download: Alpha 4 - Status: in Entwicklung (<- transl.: in development) [What seems to be the outdated information i trapped into here] You can have a look on the screenshot attached to this post in order to verify this, maybe you want to correct this. I recommend you to maybe think also about an better, more transparent, way of communicate MP2's status and naming the things what they are in an more visible way, no Problem with "Summer Bummer Lolipop", if there is a small Version-Number followed by "beta" placed directly below that. There is no need to force people into MP2 by hiding some uncomfortable facts, but there is need to make this facts easily accessible to those, who are waiting for MP2 to evolute from beta. You know? Again, don't interpret this as an cheap attempt for excuse my fault. I know that i should have gone into changelog, git-hub, sourcefroge, tracker, forum and whatever else more, to know about the real development-status in detail but i don't have done this, because MP2 is currently not relevant enough for me to investigate that deep. I promise to never rely again only on one single information that i have noticed somewhere on the main page in future if i attempt to pass such information to others here in the forum, i will try to double cross-check them first. [USER=145639]@ge2301[/USER] and [USER=109222]@Lehmden[/USER] too: To come to an end now and AFTER ALL you should know about me: If i calling MP2 alpha instead beta this was more likely a formal mistake by me, without any intentions to rate or judge over MP2 or whatever was misunderstood in here. I always try to care about my recommendations and opinions are always based on my experiences mainly. But i also use my human right for free speech when telling my opinion and not doing any egg-dance, i prefer to be man of clear words. Especially in here, there is never any kind of offending, insultaion, disparage etc. on my mind ... but there is open, straight talking, constructive, informative, kind of cooperation and nothing more. I am living with MePo, i spreading MePo, i loving MePo, i donated MePo, i need MePo, i look pleasingly forward for next MePo versions no matter if MP1or2... so for what reason i should inadequately comply about MePo? Sometime it seems that a bit often the reactions are a bit to hypersensitive in here and a bit too often there is seen instantly an offending attack in each divergent opinion or experiences and in any reasonable criticsism. Not under every stone something bad is lurking. Don't argue with opposition, take them and turn it into constructivism. [USER=109222]@Lehmden[/USER] : I am sorry that i have unknowingly become such an bad-a** kind of guy in your eyes over the years, that you have to escalate my shame to "a lot" :D +1 and this was also my recommended to first try all the other resources to solve issues, not to instantly delete MP2 ;) Unfulfilled still the wishes, disowned what is proven? :D Nein nein, little twinkle to peek you only, no real offending. What you think about saying such things more moderate? MP2 is the future, MP1 is the present. Ja ja, i am sorry for my mistake with that, i have overseen this, please read above for more. Honestly, i can't see the point you are concerning that harsh about me, as well as i cant see those "lot parts" where i was wrong. Ok, i am guilty for blasphemy due to call MP2 alpha and not beta, sort of present for you ;) But furthermore we are congruent in what we both have written? Is my english that bad suddenly? ;) So we agree both with the following: MP1-Client plugins was, can, will NEVER be useable with MP2-Client. When using MP1-Server along MP2-Client, you CAN use plugins that are created for MP1-Server. What you not directly have said, but seems to be a logic consequence, if an plugin basicially is created for the MP1-Server but also has dependencies with the MP1-Client (i.e. frontend gui-additions, i think TsBufferExtractor maybe is such an candidate) then this plugin will not work without problems in an MP1-Server+MP2-Client combo setup. since there is simply no MP1-Client. All correct? If so, then we agreeing to each other posts in most parts and shake hands now please :D The only thing that sounds new to me here is, that MP2-Server seems being removed from the MP2 setup somehow or i understand that wrong? What happend to MP2-Server, is development on hold only? Is it currently still possible to install MP2-Server at all? If i remember my last intensive MP2 test-session right, i was able to choose between MP1-Server or MP2-Server and also paralell installing both of them and toggling between them was called possible?! Anyway, if now MP1-Server is installed with MP2 setup in default then this affects only on my guess, that the TO presumably has not an MP1-S+MP2-C combo-setup and it now turns out, that he has tough (but i was also not completely ruled out to be possible). How the MP2-Server story continues (an link to regarding discussion-thread is enough and would be nice)? Here i maybe can pass some information over to you, that are new for you too today ;) Casually i just today have installed an MP1-Server only enviroment (using the final-1.13.0 setup-exe). I have choosen advanced setup and then server only. I can confirm, that MPEI will be automatically installed too under these circumstances and is working well ;) Some short Questions about this, if you have a minute (or somebody else).... Is it an good idea to use MP1-Setup for installing MP1-Server only and then using MP2-Setup for installing MP2-Client only in order to avoid the manual dll-copy etc. for getting the MPEI, what do you think? And what about MP1 single seat setup and then using MP2 only for MP2-Client install in order to use MP1+MP2-Clients on same machine on the MP1-Server, will that work out well currently? Thanks a lot and please don't feel so heavily attacked every time someone is sharing not so perfect experiences with MP2 or recommends for MP1 depending on his experiences. Nobody is hating MP2 i think. At least i can say that i do not hate MP2 or thinking bad about it, but i can't accept its status for use as productive system currently, thats all. And this experience is all i share with others having problems with MP2, not more is in here. And like it makes no sense to bash MP2 as i was misunderstood in here today, it makes no sense to bash MP1. Additionally it makes no sense to blandish about MP2. There are users that need or prefer a rock-solid stable system, what MP1 can deliver often enough, and not cares about a bit better hardware is needed to run it smoothly. MP2 has still way to many problems and there are way to many functions/plugins are missing. If this not applys for you or others this is really fine, but here and for another others this applys. Please resepect that a bit more. Believe me that i will be the first one to switch for MP2 as soon as it is called RC and something like StreamedMP is available for it. ASAP. ;) Thanks and i hope we can all together go back to normal now, nice weekend for all and the very best regards ;) [ATTACH]174841[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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