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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1098500" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hello again Mark</p><p></p><p>Glad to hear you're making progress! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's excellent. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I note that the transponder search isn't guaranteed to find all transponders. We can only get the information the broadcaster has included. So it is possible there are other transponders "out there"...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the red bubble/icon means encrypted/scrambled (and the T means TV; R means radio). Having said that, TV Server doesn't always detect the encryption status correctly. So, setting the CAM enabled is a good idea. That enables you to check if channels are really encrypted.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How are you testing? ...in MediaPortal, server config preview, server config manual control...?</p><p>...and what result/message do you get for non-working channels?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which channel list is this?</p><p>A screenshot would be great if you can manage it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To be clear: are these channels that the old TV picks up free versions of the encrypted channels found by the PC tuner, or are they completely different channels?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll take all of these comments/questions together - hopefully that's okay with you.</p><p></p><p>From a technical perspective, it <em>is</em> entirely possible for encrypted (or free) digital channels to be delivered along with analog channels from the same cable headend/system on the same cable.</p><p></p><p>Obviously I don't know what your old TV is capable of receiving, but perhaps you could look up the brand and model number on the internet and see if you can find the specifications? The other thing you could try is to see if you can find any technical information in the TV's menu/settings system. Perhaps it will show you a frequency or other information that helps you to determine whether it is receiving an analog or digital signal.</p><p></p><p>Based on your own assumption about the TV, at this point the simplest explanation for the situation does seem to be that the old TV is receiving analog channels which the PC DVB-C tuner can't receive. However, that doesn't explain how you were able to receive the channels in the past. I guess it is possible that the digital channels were not encrypted in the past and that somebody flicked the switch to enable encryption at some point between then and now. That would be sad, but unfortunately not uncommon.</p><p></p><p>The comforting constant in all of this is that the TV is still receiving the channels, so receiving them on the PC must be possible somehow. Wikipedia says UPC is still delivering analog TV in some areas:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Ireland#Television" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Ireland#Television</a></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television_in_Ireland" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television_in_Ireland</a></p><p></p><p>I suspect the signal may be switched off at any point, but if you're serious about receiving these channels perhaps you could consider buying a cheap and/or second hand analog tuner for the PC? Analog tuners are relatively cheap these days since ASO/DSO (analog switch off, digital switch on/over) has occurred in many countries, so even if it doesn't work or the signal is switched off in a few months you haven't lost/spent much.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1098500, member: 82144"] Hello again Mark Glad to hear you're making progress! :) That's excellent. :) I note that the transponder search isn't guaranteed to find all transponders. We can only get the information the broadcaster has included. So it is possible there are other transponders "out there"... Yes, the red bubble/icon means encrypted/scrambled (and the T means TV; R means radio). Having said that, TV Server doesn't always detect the encryption status correctly. So, setting the CAM enabled is a good idea. That enables you to check if channels are really encrypted. How are you testing? ...in MediaPortal, server config preview, server config manual control...? ...and what result/message do you get for non-working channels? Which channel list is this? A screenshot would be great if you can manage it. To be clear: are these channels that the old TV picks up free versions of the encrypted channels found by the PC tuner, or are they completely different channels? I'll take all of these comments/questions together - hopefully that's okay with you. From a technical perspective, it [I]is[/I] entirely possible for encrypted (or free) digital channels to be delivered along with analog channels from the same cable headend/system on the same cable. Obviously I don't know what your old TV is capable of receiving, but perhaps you could look up the brand and model number on the internet and see if you can find the specifications? The other thing you could try is to see if you can find any technical information in the TV's menu/settings system. Perhaps it will show you a frequency or other information that helps you to determine whether it is receiving an analog or digital signal. Based on your own assumption about the TV, at this point the simplest explanation for the situation does seem to be that the old TV is receiving analog channels which the PC DVB-C tuner can't receive. However, that doesn't explain how you were able to receive the channels in the past. I guess it is possible that the digital channels were not encrypted in the past and that somebody flicked the switch to enable encryption at some point between then and now. That would be sad, but unfortunately not uncommon. The comforting constant in all of this is that the TV is still receiving the channels, so receiving them on the PC must be possible somehow. Wikipedia says UPC is still delivering analog TV in some areas: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Ireland#Television[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television_in_Ireland[/url] I suspect the signal may be switched off at any point, but if you're serious about receiving these channels perhaps you could consider buying a cheap and/or second hand analog tuner for the PC? Analog tuners are relatively cheap these days since ASO/DSO (analog switch off, digital switch on/over) has occurred in many countries, so even if it doesn't work or the signal is switched off in a few months you haven't lost/spent much. Regards, mm [/QUOTE]
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