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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 5627"><p>Did you know that Kellogg's also make htpc cases nowadays? No really, I got this one in a corn flakes package. Well, not literally but I simply couldn't resist the idea of building a computer into this delicate retro-tincan so I sent in a couple of coupons, and here it is...just begging for hardware. </p><p></p><p>Top/front view: </p><p><img src="http://orr.se/IMG_0250.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Top/back view:</p><p><img src="http://orr.se/IMG_0251.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Bottom view:</p><p><img src="http://orr.se/IMG_0256.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Inside view: </p><p><img src="http://orr.se/IMG_0258.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>And finally, compared to a 33 cl can of Tuborg beer:</p><p><img src="http://orr.se/IMG_0259.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>The can measures 213x172x91 mm (height x width x depth) so I believe a Via Mini-itx board (170x170 mm) will fit in quite nicely. The real trick will be to get a hardware-mpeg2 video card in there, since most pci cards are wider than 91 mm..oh well...</p><p></p><p>As for cooling, I don't believe one would need more than a couple of 40 or 60 mm fans, since the Via mini-itx boards generate very little heat. Of course, there's always the HD, DVD-reader and Video card, but I don't want any bulky 80 or 120 mm fans in there if it's not really necessary. </p><p></p><p><strong>Hardware needed: </strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: olive"><strong>Motherboard:</strong></span> <a href="http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_m_spec.jsp?motherboardId=81" target="_blank">Via Epia M10000</a></p><p><span style="color: olive"><strong>CPU:</strong></span> <a href="http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c3/" target="_blank">Via C3 Nehemiah @ ~1 GHz</a></p><p><span style="color: green"><strong>Hard drive:</strong></span> My old 3GB IBM laptop drive, with 2.5"->3.5" adapter</p><p><span style="color: green"><strong>Memory:</strong></span> 512 mb 2700 ddram</p><p><span style="color: olive"><strong>DVD-rom:</strong></span> <a href="http://www.teac.com/DSPD/DV_28E.html" target="_blank">Teac DV28E Slimline</a></p><p><span style="color: olive"><strong>PSU:</strong></span> <a href="http://www.mycom.se/produkt/powerset_for_mini_itx_byggare_5_parts_25777.html" target="_blank">60W Fanless kit</a></p><p><span style="color: olive"><strong>Fans:</strong></span> 1x processor fan, 1x 60 case fan</p><p><span style="color: #666666"><strong>Video out:</strong></span> Built-in</p><p><span style="color: #666666"><strong>Video in:</strong></span> Low profile Hardware-based mpeg2 card</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #666666">Grey=still open</span></p><p><span style="color: green">Green=acquired</span></p><p><span style="color: olive">Olive=to be ordered</span></p><p></p><p>That's all there is for now I guess. Will post more info once I get my hands on all the HW needed, so stay tuned. And of course, feel free to post comments 8)</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: orange">22/11</span></strong></p><p>After reading about the Via Epia boards out there, I'm thinking about wheather I should wait for the new nano-itx boards (which, At this time, are due to January 2005) or just go for a Epia-M 10000 or MII 12000. The MII has pcmcia, which I definately won't need but it's also 200 MHz faster than the M 10000. Practically, it shouldn't matter that much since it's the same C3 cpu and I'll be using a hw mpeg2 card anyway. Will probably save me some 40$ or so...</p><p></p><p>However, the system won't be able to make use of all the MP functionality, since the processor is way too slow. The upcoming Epia-N will, according to <a href="http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/c-series/cn400/" target="_blank">the specs @ Via Tech. </a>feature more built-in video-decoding-stuff but I haven't heard anything about a processor faster than 1 GHz which will still be too slow for MP. Add to that the abscense of a pci slot (->no hw mpeg2 card!) and stuff will get real nasty. </p><p></p><p>Then it's better to have a motherboard with expansion capabilities, <em>and</em> a 1 GHz processor like the M 10000, right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 5627"] Did you know that Kellogg's also make htpc cases nowadays? No really, I got this one in a corn flakes package. Well, not literally but I simply couldn't resist the idea of building a computer into this delicate retro-tincan so I sent in a couple of coupons, and here it is...just begging for hardware. Top/front view: [img]http://orr.se/IMG_0250.jpg[/img] Top/back view: [img]http://orr.se/IMG_0251.jpg[/img] Bottom view: [img]http://orr.se/IMG_0256.jpg[/img] Inside view: [img]http://orr.se/IMG_0258.jpg[/img] And finally, compared to a 33 cl can of Tuborg beer: [img]http://orr.se/IMG_0259.jpg[/img] The can measures 213x172x91 mm (height x width x depth) so I believe a Via Mini-itx board (170x170 mm) will fit in quite nicely. The real trick will be to get a hardware-mpeg2 video card in there, since most pci cards are wider than 91 mm..oh well... As for cooling, I don't believe one would need more than a couple of 40 or 60 mm fans, since the Via mini-itx boards generate very little heat. Of course, there's always the HD, DVD-reader and Video card, but I don't want any bulky 80 or 120 mm fans in there if it's not really necessary. [b]Hardware needed: [/b] [color=olive][b]Motherboard:[/b][/color] [url=http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_m_spec.jsp?motherboardId=81]Via Epia M10000[/url] [color=olive][b]CPU:[/b][/color] [url=http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c3/]Via C3 Nehemiah @ ~1 GHz[/url] [color=green][b]Hard drive:[/b][/color] My old 3GB IBM laptop drive, with 2.5"->3.5" adapter [color=green][b]Memory:[/b][/color] 512 mb 2700 ddram [color=olive][b]DVD-rom:[/b][/color] [url=http://www.teac.com/DSPD/DV_28E.html]Teac DV28E Slimline[/url] [color=olive][b]PSU:[/b][/color] [url=http://www.mycom.se/produkt/powerset_for_mini_itx_byggare_5_parts_25777.html]60W Fanless kit[/url] [color=olive][b]Fans:[/b][/color] 1x processor fan, 1x 60 case fan [color=#666666][b]Video out:[/b][/color] Built-in [color=#666666][b]Video in:[/b][/color] Low profile Hardware-based mpeg2 card [color=#666666]Grey=still open[/color] [color=green]Green=acquired[/color] [color=olive]Olive=to be ordered[/color] That's all there is for now I guess. Will post more info once I get my hands on all the HW needed, so stay tuned. And of course, feel free to post comments 8) [b][color=orange]22/11[/color][/b] After reading about the Via Epia boards out there, I'm thinking about wheather I should wait for the new nano-itx boards (which, At this time, are due to January 2005) or just go for a Epia-M 10000 or MII 12000. The MII has pcmcia, which I definately won't need but it's also 200 MHz faster than the M 10000. Practically, it shouldn't matter that much since it's the same C3 cpu and I'll be using a hw mpeg2 card anyway. Will probably save me some 40$ or so... However, the system won't be able to make use of all the MP functionality, since the processor is way too slow. The upcoming Epia-N will, according to [url=http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/c-series/cn400/]the specs @ Via Tech. [/url]feature more built-in video-decoding-stuff but I haven't heard anything about a processor faster than 1 GHz which will still be too slow for MP. Add to that the abscense of a pci slot (->no hw mpeg2 card!) and stuff will get real nasty. Then it's better to have a motherboard with expansion capabilities, [i]and[/i] a 1 GHz processor like the M 10000, right? [/QUOTE]
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