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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1225926" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>[USER=128461]@Snoopy87[/USER]</p><p>I don't want to get into an argument, but I feel that your reply deserves an explanation/response.</p><p></p><p>In short: you have misunderstood how MP works for codec settings.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If a user does this the settings will be saved => no bug.</p><p>All that is required for settings to be saved is to open MP Config and view the settings that you want to be saved. My bet is that you didn't view the codec settings until you tried changing to MPAR. That's why I think the problem would be solved if you change back to DirectSound now. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't say that. You've misinterpreted what I said.</p><p>The settings are saved when you view them, even if you don't make changes... <strong>but if you haven't viewed them, there will be no settings.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><p>I'm sure it is frustrating... but sometimes we can be mistaken, and in this case I think you were/are mistaken. It's okay to be wrong sometimes.</p><p></p><p>Like I said: from my side I respectfully chose to believe the log files instead of what you said because it was obvious that you didn't understand how MP works for codec settings. From your side, you can choose whether to trust that after 10 years I understand how MP works for codec settings... or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This statement shows that you don't understand how MP works for codec settings!</p><p>When there are no settings:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">MP (<strong>not MP Config</strong>) will use the system default codecs, which are chosen by the DirectShow merit system. In your case MP chose the LAV audio decoder because it had the highest merit on your system for the TV channel audio stream's format. Similarly, MP chose Microsoft DTV-DVD video because it had a higher merit than LAV video decoder.<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">MP Config (<strong>not MP</strong>) selects LAV by default if it is installed/available. This saves you time having to go through and select LAV for ~20 (?) settings.</li> </ol><p>It all makes sense if you understand how/why it works! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this statement shows that you don't understand how MP works for this part!</p><p><strong>Only the settings that you view are saved.</strong></p><p>If you view the video renderer tab then the settings for that tab will be saved... but the codec settings in the other tabs won't be touched.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, you did attach log files to the first post... but they weren't log files from the Watchdog tool, were they?</p><p>...and in my second reply I asked for new log files and you completely ignored me!</p><p>So, my view is that you didn't do what I asked.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Argh, Sascha! After so many years using MP and getting help from us here on the forum you should know (because it's team policy and because I've specifically asked you over and over again in other threads) that <strong>we <span style="font-size: 22px">ALWAYS</span> want you to use the Watchdog to collect log files</strong>.</p><p>I don't know why you've chosen to ignore the policy and continue to zip only what you think is relevant, but it's really <strong>really</strong> annoying.</p><p>The Watchdog collects all the information we need to solve problems. Don't you trust us to know what's needed?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Like I said: I prefer to believe the log files. If you'd used the Watchdog as you should have, I would have been able to double-check the merits etc. for myself and make sure you hadn't made a mistake. This is just one reason why we always expect/prefer Watchdog log files.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A little humility would be appreciated!</p><p>I will reserve judgement until I actually see the log files.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What you consider to be a bug is actually done by design. As I explained above, MP Config selects LAV by default to save you time. It's not a problem unless you go ahead and use MP without checking that the settings are okay first, which is never recommended.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1225926, member: 82144"] [USER=128461]@Snoopy87[/USER] I don't want to get into an argument, but I feel that your reply deserves an explanation/response. In short: you have misunderstood how MP works for codec settings. If a user does this the settings will be saved => no bug. All that is required for settings to be saved is to open MP Config and view the settings that you want to be saved. My bet is that you didn't view the codec settings until you tried changing to MPAR. That's why I think the problem would be solved if you change back to DirectSound now. ;) I didn't say that. You've misinterpreted what I said. The settings are saved when you view them, even if you don't make changes... [B]but if you haven't viewed them, there will be no settings. [/B] I'm sure it is frustrating... but sometimes we can be mistaken, and in this case I think you were/are mistaken. It's okay to be wrong sometimes. Like I said: from my side I respectfully chose to believe the log files instead of what you said because it was obvious that you didn't understand how MP works for codec settings. From your side, you can choose whether to trust that after 10 years I understand how MP works for codec settings... or not. This statement shows that you don't understand how MP works for codec settings! When there are no settings: [LIST=1] [*]MP ([B]not MP Config[/B]) will use the system default codecs, which are chosen by the DirectShow merit system. In your case MP chose the LAV audio decoder because it had the highest merit on your system for the TV channel audio stream's format. Similarly, MP chose Microsoft DTV-DVD video because it had a higher merit than LAV video decoder. [*]MP Config ([B]not MP[/B]) selects LAV by default if it is installed/available. This saves you time having to go through and select LAV for ~20 (?) settings. [/LIST] It all makes sense if you understand how/why it works! ;) Again, this statement shows that you don't understand how MP works for this part! [B]Only the settings that you view are saved.[/B] If you view the video renderer tab then the settings for that tab will be saved... but the codec settings in the other tabs won't be touched. Yes, you did attach log files to the first post... but they weren't log files from the Watchdog tool, were they? ...and in my second reply I asked for new log files and you completely ignored me! So, my view is that you didn't do what I asked. Argh, Sascha! After so many years using MP and getting help from us here on the forum you should know (because it's team policy and because I've specifically asked you over and over again in other threads) that [B]we [SIZE=6]ALWAYS[/SIZE] want you to use the Watchdog to collect log files[/B]. I don't know why you've chosen to ignore the policy and continue to zip only what you think is relevant, but it's really [B]really[/B] annoying. The Watchdog collects all the information we need to solve problems. Don't you trust us to know what's needed? Like I said: I prefer to believe the log files. If you'd used the Watchdog as you should have, I would have been able to double-check the merits etc. for myself and make sure you hadn't made a mistake. This is just one reason why we always expect/prefer Watchdog log files. A little humility would be appreciated! I will reserve judgement until I actually see the log files. What you consider to be a bug is actually done by design. As I explained above, MP Config selects LAV by default to save you time. It's not a problem unless you go ahead and use MP without checking that the settings are okay first, which is never recommended. [/QUOTE]
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