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<blockquote data-quote="SwingSultan" data-source="post: 232588" data-attributes="member: 53218"><p>a good source to look around for germans is <a href="http://www.caseking.de" target="_blank">http://www.caseking.de</a> lian li is also a very good case manufacturer with excellent internal and external design. that means no windows, flashing fans and all that cheap crap golf tuners would adore <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> but caseking is not cheapest source for hardware. for the purchase i would look at <a href="http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland" target="_blank">Preisvergleich Geizhals.at Deutschland</a> . the hp itself is from austria but as the url suggests they have an equally good section for the german market.</p><p></p><p>my problem with the lian li htpc cases is that the beautiful ones have 2 bezels for optical drives. i wouldnt want a bezel and an eject button for an optical drive that doesnt exsist. i find it quite hard to find a decent cast with a good design that has only one space for an dvd drive.</p><p></p><p>the gd02b looks good. im getting a bit paranoid with the sides of the case. since they look like swiss cheese with square holes i dont think that the case helps to prevent unnecessary noise. a good alternative might be the x10 by origenae. if you dont mind the empty panel for the vf display and the ir reciever.</p><p></p><p>the origen ae cases really are well build but 5mm thick external plating is a bit overkill. lian li "only" uses 2mm thick aluminum and its mighty fine. if you select yout powersupply and fans right you shouldnt have any problems to build an almost inaudiable pc.</p><p></p><p>edit:</p><p></p><p>a good way to reduce noise is to change the cpu to an athlon x2-be 2400. those are the same cpus (same performance at the same clockspeed) as the normal x2 but they are preselected to run at lower voltage and therefore produce less heat than their regular x2 brothers. as cpu cooler i would recommend something like a scyte mugen. in theory you could run the x2-be without a fan using that cooler depending on the case and airflow. by attaching a low noise fan like the noctua nf-p12 to the heat sink at 5 or 7v you shouldnt have any problems even on hot summer days. as 80mm case fan i would either use the nf-r8 series by noctua (at 5 or 7v) or the sharkoon silent eagle 1000. the sharkoon fans are extremely silent but have a very limited airflow but are almost inaudiable even at 12v. the noctua and sharkoon fans both come with rubber decouplers and at leat 7v adaptors (the noctua with 5v too due to their higher airflow). the noctua fans should give you the the opportunity to find the right balance between noise and cooling. if you want even more fine tuning than you should additionally buy zalman fanmates which let you adjust the fan voltage stagelessly. if you ask yourself how a single individual can write that much about fans the anwear is that my gaming an work machine is watercooled. therefore i always fight the neverending battle with the "loudest" component <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> right now my eheim water pump and my samsung spinpoint hdd are my worst enemys <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> thats also a reason why im planning a selfmade case at the moment. the "prototype" to find general problems with manufacturing etc, will most defenetly be my htpc since it was build by cheap and or leftover hardware <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SwingSultan, post: 232588, member: 53218"] a good source to look around for germans is [url]http://www.caseking.de[/url] lian li is also a very good case manufacturer with excellent internal and external design. that means no windows, flashing fans and all that cheap crap golf tuners would adore :D but caseking is not cheapest source for hardware. for the purchase i would look at [url=http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland]Preisvergleich Geizhals.at Deutschland[/url] . the hp itself is from austria but as the url suggests they have an equally good section for the german market. my problem with the lian li htpc cases is that the beautiful ones have 2 bezels for optical drives. i wouldnt want a bezel and an eject button for an optical drive that doesnt exsist. i find it quite hard to find a decent cast with a good design that has only one space for an dvd drive. the gd02b looks good. im getting a bit paranoid with the sides of the case. since they look like swiss cheese with square holes i dont think that the case helps to prevent unnecessary noise. a good alternative might be the x10 by origenae. if you dont mind the empty panel for the vf display and the ir reciever. the origen ae cases really are well build but 5mm thick external plating is a bit overkill. lian li "only" uses 2mm thick aluminum and its mighty fine. if you select yout powersupply and fans right you shouldnt have any problems to build an almost inaudiable pc. edit: a good way to reduce noise is to change the cpu to an athlon x2-be 2400. those are the same cpus (same performance at the same clockspeed) as the normal x2 but they are preselected to run at lower voltage and therefore produce less heat than their regular x2 brothers. as cpu cooler i would recommend something like a scyte mugen. in theory you could run the x2-be without a fan using that cooler depending on the case and airflow. by attaching a low noise fan like the noctua nf-p12 to the heat sink at 5 or 7v you shouldnt have any problems even on hot summer days. as 80mm case fan i would either use the nf-r8 series by noctua (at 5 or 7v) or the sharkoon silent eagle 1000. the sharkoon fans are extremely silent but have a very limited airflow but are almost inaudiable even at 12v. the noctua and sharkoon fans both come with rubber decouplers and at leat 7v adaptors (the noctua with 5v too due to their higher airflow). the noctua fans should give you the the opportunity to find the right balance between noise and cooling. if you want even more fine tuning than you should additionally buy zalman fanmates which let you adjust the fan voltage stagelessly. if you ask yourself how a single individual can write that much about fans the anwear is that my gaming an work machine is watercooled. therefore i always fight the neverending battle with the "loudest" component :D right now my eheim water pump and my samsung spinpoint hdd are my worst enemys :D thats also a reason why im planning a selfmade case at the moment. the "prototype" to find general problems with manufacturing etc, will most defenetly be my htpc since it was build by cheap and or leftover hardware ;) [/QUOTE]
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