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<blockquote data-quote="GeYe" data-source="post: 1202354" data-attributes="member: 87380"><p>Just a short note <strong>V246 </strong> works really good on Geforce 1050 TI and RX 460.Didn't see problems on my test runs.</p><p></p><p>I can now confirm: the slow stop of AMD is gone, it is not as fast as on TI 1050, but not as long as before. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /> 10 Minutes play are about 5 to 6s seconds stop and after 1 hour TV play it is also needs only 5 to 6s to stop. Slow runs stop after 1 to 2s.</p><p></p><p>After one film and a lot of tests i didn't see green screens or other corruption! But the corruption on Live TV Das Erste <strong>HD </strong>is still there, see Bug <a href="https://community.amd.com/thread/205679" target="_blank">https://community.amd.com/thread/205679</a> . Funny there is no corruption on ZDF HD. I have h264 hardware accelartion activated.</p><p></p><p>I tested yesterday shortly before film run the <strong>v251 </strong>and had problems. I did only see a black screen, but video and sound was playing. Reboot didn't help. Must revert back to v246, so i hadn't no time anymore to test.</p><p></p><p>P.S. I'm back on Gigabyte RX 460 4GB in HTPC. The Zotac Geforce 1050 TI goes in an other pc or maybe i will send it back. Short conclusion for people are interested:</p><p></p><p>Zotac Geforce 1050 TI:</p><p>+ Has a bit more power as RX 460 (better rendering times, especially if you try madvr NGU). For normal madvr settings it has no impact.</p><p>+ Less OSD flickering as on RX (but solved this with MP setting reduce to 2 frames for RX, also helps the Geforce to get no flickering)</p><p>- The Zotac is too loud, you only can control fan from 45% (min) and 100% (max). Maybe this will be fixed, but for a htpc this is too loud, also the temps are @ 35 to 40 *C and this fan speed is not needed. As [USER=128337]@joecrow[/USER] wrote me the EVGA model hasn't this problem. I bought the zotac because in reviews it was marked as quiter than other cards. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p>- 3D MVC is not as easy as with RX 460. It works but if you really need a good solution you will need a extra program, see [USER=154942]@rohnfe[/USER] posting with settings. I had problems switching SD -> 4k -> 3D so sometimes 3D on TV wasn't activated and this was because the resolution send was without 3D. You can't activate it than on TV. Don't see this on RX, only need to activate it in windows settings.</p><p>- While testing all the settings, I had more than one hard reboot. Especially with 3D settings. But no problem after setting the suggested settings.</p><p>- I had some kind of sound corruption in short sounds while in menus in MP. Setup is bitstreaming to Denon Resceiver. But no problem in film content. Maybe some kind of setting. Don#t know.</p><p></p><p>Gigabyte RX 460 4GB:</p><p>+ I feel the picture quality and smoothnees is bit better. But if the RX get a 10, the geforce would get a 9.9. This also could be a placebo, so they are quite equal with appropriate settings.</p><p>+ Not loud but also not as quite as i would like. Between the hdds you don't hear the card, but if you have a complete passive system only with ssd, you will hear it. Again fan can only be controlled from 35% (min) to 100% (max). But it is a lot quieter than the zotac and I think the old firmware and reviews stated that the fan can shutdown.</p><p>- Bug with dxva decoding and h264 content. See <a href="https://community.amd.com/thread/205679" target="_blank">https://community.amd.com/thread/205679</a> . For me it only happens with LiveTV. Also AMD didn't do a good job with the early drivers and isn't now also.</p><p>- Compared with NVIDIA slow zapping for long runs in mp (>10 minutes play). NVIDIA takes 2s or 3s, AMD takes 5s or 6s.</p><p></p><p>Result: Both are really good cards. If the bugs are solved i think they play on the same level while you have at the moment a bit more performance on NVIDIA side. Maybe you now need also compare a 1050 vs RX 460 and a 1050 TI vs RX 470 to get equal performance results. I have takes some photos of madvr stats, maybe I will post this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GeYe, post: 1202354, member: 87380"] Just a short note [B]V246 [/B] works really good on Geforce 1050 TI and RX 460.Didn't see problems on my test runs. I can now confirm: the slow stop of AMD is gone, it is not as fast as on TI 1050, but not as long as before. (y) 10 Minutes play are about 5 to 6s seconds stop and after 1 hour TV play it is also needs only 5 to 6s to stop. Slow runs stop after 1 to 2s. After one film and a lot of tests i didn't see green screens or other corruption! But the corruption on Live TV Das Erste [B]HD [/B]is still there, see Bug [URL]https://community.amd.com/thread/205679[/URL] . Funny there is no corruption on ZDF HD. I have h264 hardware accelartion activated. I tested yesterday shortly before film run the [B]v251 [/B]and had problems. I did only see a black screen, but video and sound was playing. Reboot didn't help. Must revert back to v246, so i hadn't no time anymore to test. P.S. I'm back on Gigabyte RX 460 4GB in HTPC. The Zotac Geforce 1050 TI goes in an other pc or maybe i will send it back. Short conclusion for people are interested: Zotac Geforce 1050 TI: + Has a bit more power as RX 460 (better rendering times, especially if you try madvr NGU). For normal madvr settings it has no impact. + Less OSD flickering as on RX (but solved this with MP setting reduce to 2 frames for RX, also helps the Geforce to get no flickering) - The Zotac is too loud, you only can control fan from 45% (min) and 100% (max). Maybe this will be fixed, but for a htpc this is too loud, also the temps are @ 35 to 40 *C and this fan speed is not needed. As [USER=128337]@joecrow[/USER] wrote me the EVGA model hasn't this problem. I bought the zotac because in reviews it was marked as quiter than other cards. :p - 3D MVC is not as easy as with RX 460. It works but if you really need a good solution you will need a extra program, see [USER=154942]@rohnfe[/USER] posting with settings. I had problems switching SD -> 4k -> 3D so sometimes 3D on TV wasn't activated and this was because the resolution send was without 3D. You can't activate it than on TV. Don't see this on RX, only need to activate it in windows settings. - While testing all the settings, I had more than one hard reboot. Especially with 3D settings. But no problem after setting the suggested settings. - I had some kind of sound corruption in short sounds while in menus in MP. Setup is bitstreaming to Denon Resceiver. But no problem in film content. Maybe some kind of setting. Don#t know. Gigabyte RX 460 4GB: + I feel the picture quality and smoothnees is bit better. But if the RX get a 10, the geforce would get a 9.9. This also could be a placebo, so they are quite equal with appropriate settings. + Not loud but also not as quite as i would like. Between the hdds you don't hear the card, but if you have a complete passive system only with ssd, you will hear it. Again fan can only be controlled from 35% (min) to 100% (max). But it is a lot quieter than the zotac and I think the old firmware and reviews stated that the fan can shutdown. - Bug with dxva decoding and h264 content. See [URL]https://community.amd.com/thread/205679[/URL] . For me it only happens with LiveTV. Also AMD didn't do a good job with the early drivers and isn't now also. - Compared with NVIDIA slow zapping for long runs in mp (>10 minutes play). NVIDIA takes 2s or 3s, AMD takes 5s or 6s. Result: Both are really good cards. If the bugs are solved i think they play on the same level while you have at the moment a bit more performance on NVIDIA side. Maybe you now need also compare a 1050 vs RX 460 and a 1050 TI vs RX 470 to get equal performance results. I have takes some photos of madvr stats, maybe I will post this. [/QUOTE]
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