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<blockquote data-quote="jazZman" data-source="post: 26629" data-attributes="member: 13737"><p>Hi Folks,</p><p>I’m not sure that I should wade in here at all, but here goes…</p><p></p><p>Kris,</p><p>I congratulate you on your efforts, posting on Ebay with the identical product name was a great idea. Now at least if a potential buyer does see these scam artists listings, they will see yours too, and perhaps they will think twice.</p><p></p><p>As far as the selling of Open Source is concerned, as a senior IT Project Manager for a large financial institution here in Australia, we purchase Open Source software packages from our suppliers all the time. We also purchase support for these packages from their developers, normally as a separate item. </p><p>Why pay for Open Source??</p><p>We pay, because we understand that the developers need to eat, pay their rent and put their kids through school. If we do not support the Developers by paying for their work, they will cease to improve their product.</p><p>Also buy financing further development of a product, we can request the developers to customise the product or add features that we believe are useful.</p><p></p><p>Pieroxy,</p><p>As any good lawyer / solicitor will tell you, there are two parts to a law, they are:</p><p>• The intent or spirit of the law (what the law was designed to cover or protect)</p><p></p><p>• The letter of the law, (the actual wording of the law, which is open for interpretation. This is where the legal eagles make all there money)</p><p></p><p>You are absolutely correct, within the letter of the law, Open Source software can be distributed and or supported for a fee.(sorry Kris) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p>That fee is freely governed by the market, so you can charge what market is willing to pay.</p><p></p><p>In saying that, I believe that the intent of this part of the GPL (from reading the entire document) was to allow developers to fund their projects and not for profiteers to unscrupulously make a buck off the hard work of others. </p><p></p><p>What you cannot do under the GPL and for that matter, Fair Trading legislation (in this country anyway), is deliberately misrepresent the product and or service provided. </p><p></p><p>The majority of these sellers deliberately misconstrue the name of the product, so that anyone searching Google on this title (Windows XP Media Portal Edition Center 2005) will be presented with out of the first 50 listings, 45 hits on M$ product and 5 on Media Portal. </p><p>They also tend to lay out their listings / advertisements in the same format as those selling MCE again in a deliberate to mislead the prospective buyer.</p><p></p><p>As I have said before, If your going to sell a pile of bricks, then call it a pile of bricks, not a kit home...</p><p></p><p>I have a strong moral objection to these sellers profiting from the toil of others, without contributing back to the (Media Portal) community or the developers, so therefore I back Kris’s efforts completely. But I do agree with Pieroxy, that a Newbie to the wonderful world of HTPC would be more inclined to take advice from someone using more polite tones and reason rather than those that could be construed as defamatory or abusive.</p><p></p><p>Just had another thought……</p><p>Why don’t we sell Media Portal.</p><p>We could burn the most stable release (.013), the open source add on packs and a few of the CVS files and flog it for say $10.00. This would cover the media, label printing etc.</p><p>Any profit we could forward on to Frodo and the guys to buy toys with to assist the ongoing development.</p><p>This would act as a deterrent to the bottom feeders that pry upon the gullible as well as providing a service to those who do not have adequate bandwidth to pull down large files</p><p>And possibly provide a small income source for those who really earned it</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just an Idea</p><p></p><p>Cheers :wink: </p><p></p><p>Jamie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jazZman, post: 26629, member: 13737"] Hi Folks, I’m not sure that I should wade in here at all, but here goes… Kris, I congratulate you on your efforts, posting on Ebay with the identical product name was a great idea. Now at least if a potential buyer does see these scam artists listings, they will see yours too, and perhaps they will think twice. As far as the selling of Open Source is concerned, as a senior IT Project Manager for a large financial institution here in Australia, we purchase Open Source software packages from our suppliers all the time. We also purchase support for these packages from their developers, normally as a separate item. Why pay for Open Source?? We pay, because we understand that the developers need to eat, pay their rent and put their kids through school. If we do not support the Developers by paying for their work, they will cease to improve their product. Also buy financing further development of a product, we can request the developers to customise the product or add features that we believe are useful. Pieroxy, As any good lawyer / solicitor will tell you, there are two parts to a law, they are: • The intent or spirit of the law (what the law was designed to cover or protect) • The letter of the law, (the actual wording of the law, which is open for interpretation. This is where the legal eagles make all there money) You are absolutely correct, within the letter of the law, Open Source software can be distributed and or supported for a fee.(sorry Kris) :( That fee is freely governed by the market, so you can charge what market is willing to pay. In saying that, I believe that the intent of this part of the GPL (from reading the entire document) was to allow developers to fund their projects and not for profiteers to unscrupulously make a buck off the hard work of others. What you cannot do under the GPL and for that matter, Fair Trading legislation (in this country anyway), is deliberately misrepresent the product and or service provided. The majority of these sellers deliberately misconstrue the name of the product, so that anyone searching Google on this title (Windows XP Media Portal Edition Center 2005) will be presented with out of the first 50 listings, 45 hits on M$ product and 5 on Media Portal. They also tend to lay out their listings / advertisements in the same format as those selling MCE again in a deliberate to mislead the prospective buyer. As I have said before, If your going to sell a pile of bricks, then call it a pile of bricks, not a kit home... I have a strong moral objection to these sellers profiting from the toil of others, without contributing back to the (Media Portal) community or the developers, so therefore I back Kris’s efforts completely. But I do agree with Pieroxy, that a Newbie to the wonderful world of HTPC would be more inclined to take advice from someone using more polite tones and reason rather than those that could be construed as defamatory or abusive. Just had another thought…… Why don’t we sell Media Portal. We could burn the most stable release (.013), the open source add on packs and a few of the CVS files and flog it for say $10.00. This would cover the media, label printing etc. Any profit we could forward on to Frodo and the guys to buy toys with to assist the ongoing development. This would act as a deterrent to the bottom feeders that pry upon the gullible as well as providing a service to those who do not have adequate bandwidth to pull down large files And possibly provide a small income source for those who really earned it Just an Idea Cheers :wink: Jamie [/QUOTE]
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