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<blockquote data-quote="magao" data-source="post: 411482" data-attributes="member: 86026"><p>I've been playing with XBMC 9.04 beta on Ubuntu 9.04 yesterday on my main machine (thank you Wubi). I also tried out XBMC on Windows, but it is still (and I'm sure will remain) the neglected stepchild. There are both positives and negatives.</p><p></p><p>1. (Positive) For the first time ever, everything I've tried is still working after a day of fiddling. Every other time I've broken something to the point that I can't recover this far along.</p><p></p><p>2. (Positive) XBMC with VDPAU (hardware offloading of H.264/VC-1) is working excellently with my 9600GT.</p><p></p><p>2a. (Negative) I find the XBMC devs to have a real double standard at times. They've stated for years that they won't intoduce platform-specific code to support DirectShow codecs/filters or DxVA. Then VDPAU is introduced, and they immediately introduce platform-specific code to support hardware-offloading on nVidia cards under Linux.</p><p></p><p>3. (Positive) The interface is considerably faster than it used to be, using the default HD PM3.0 skin.</p><p></p><p>4. (Positive) The default interface is very usable.</p><p></p><p>5. (Negative) Severe tearing on horizontal pans with vsync <strong>on</strong> (largely fixed by turning vsync <strong>off</strong> - the opposite to what you would expect). This was my original deal-breaker, causing me to look for something other than XBMC when I was using my laptop (before I built my HTPC). The tearing was independent of renderer - software, VDPAU, ARB, GLSL.</p><p></p><p>6. (Negative) XBMC won't use embedded fonts for subtitles. This is deal-breaker #1.</p><p></p><p>7. (Negative) XBMC sometimes doesn't display subtitles, even on the same video. The settings all appear to be right, it says subtitles should be displayed ... I can't work out why they're not showing right now. This is deal-breaker #2.</p><p></p><p>8. (Negative) I can't work out when the "high-quality" upscaling takes effect, and when the scaling set while playing the movie take effect. As far as I can see, it's always the latter - but the options set there don't always hold, even when you've chosen "apply these as default to all videos". I don't understand why the quality settings are split up this way.</p><p></p><p>9. (Negative) A few crashes while testing resolutions.</p><p></p><p>10. (Positive and Negative) Settting up LIRC is now very simple if you have a supported remote. My spare remote is one of those crappy "MCE-compatible" ones that registers as both a keyboard and mouse. I was able to set things up so I was capturing all the events, but have no idea how I'd get it to do that at boot time. It should be very simple to set up to capture events from multiple devices.</p><p></p><p>In summary - I'm sticking with MP, because I want the ability to use the entire DirectShow filter chain, and it handles subtitles properly, and I'm willing to put up with occasional Windows problems. If I were setting up a new HTPC for a family member who didn't need TV tuning, there's a good chance I'd go with XBMC on Ubuntu - apart from anything else, I think it's more likely to be working exactly the same way in a years time as when it was first set up. Can't say that for a Windows machine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="magao, post: 411482, member: 86026"] I've been playing with XBMC 9.04 beta on Ubuntu 9.04 yesterday on my main machine (thank you Wubi). I also tried out XBMC on Windows, but it is still (and I'm sure will remain) the neglected stepchild. There are both positives and negatives. 1. (Positive) For the first time ever, everything I've tried is still working after a day of fiddling. Every other time I've broken something to the point that I can't recover this far along. 2. (Positive) XBMC with VDPAU (hardware offloading of H.264/VC-1) is working excellently with my 9600GT. 2a. (Negative) I find the XBMC devs to have a real double standard at times. They've stated for years that they won't intoduce platform-specific code to support DirectShow codecs/filters or DxVA. Then VDPAU is introduced, and they immediately introduce platform-specific code to support hardware-offloading on nVidia cards under Linux. 3. (Positive) The interface is considerably faster than it used to be, using the default HD PM3.0 skin. 4. (Positive) The default interface is very usable. 5. (Negative) Severe tearing on horizontal pans with vsync [B]on[/B] (largely fixed by turning vsync [B]off[/B] - the opposite to what you would expect). This was my original deal-breaker, causing me to look for something other than XBMC when I was using my laptop (before I built my HTPC). The tearing was independent of renderer - software, VDPAU, ARB, GLSL. 6. (Negative) XBMC won't use embedded fonts for subtitles. This is deal-breaker #1. 7. (Negative) XBMC sometimes doesn't display subtitles, even on the same video. The settings all appear to be right, it says subtitles should be displayed ... I can't work out why they're not showing right now. This is deal-breaker #2. 8. (Negative) I can't work out when the "high-quality" upscaling takes effect, and when the scaling set while playing the movie take effect. As far as I can see, it's always the latter - but the options set there don't always hold, even when you've chosen "apply these as default to all videos". I don't understand why the quality settings are split up this way. 9. (Negative) A few crashes while testing resolutions. 10. (Positive and Negative) Settting up LIRC is now very simple if you have a supported remote. My spare remote is one of those crappy "MCE-compatible" ones that registers as both a keyboard and mouse. I was able to set things up so I was capturing all the events, but have no idea how I'd get it to do that at boot time. It should be very simple to set up to capture events from multiple devices. In summary - I'm sticking with MP, because I want the ability to use the entire DirectShow filter chain, and it handles subtitles properly, and I'm willing to put up with occasional Windows problems. If I were setting up a new HTPC for a family member who didn't need TV tuning, there's a good chance I'd go with XBMC on Ubuntu - apart from anything else, I think it's more likely to be working exactly the same way in a years time as when it was first set up. Can't say that for a Windows machine. [/QUOTE]
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