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<blockquote data-quote="infinite.loop" data-source="post: 364146" data-attributes="member: 10723"><p>[USER=49885]kkendall[/USER] </p><p>We have no problem with constructive criticism.</p><p>But you should realy tone your voice down in here. Some of your posts are close to be considered as flaming.</p><p></p><p>Let me answer your questions now: <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red">Q: <em>"It's not even in the Hot Plugin section"</em></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A: Take a look at the TV-Server Forums. There is no "Hot Plugins" section simply because there are so few plugins that this was not required, nor request by DVDFreak.</li> </ul><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: red">Q: <em>"What is it that the devs have against 4TR?"</em></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A: Nothing. Why should we have soething against a community plugin which extends our application?</li> </ul><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: red">Q: <em>"Why is it not part of the TV-Server?"</em></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A: At the time it was developed and the first request for an integration came up, we were working on 1.0.<br /> We did talk about an integration, one of our developers and myselfe were in contact with DVDfreak.<br /> <br /> But we came to the conclusion, that swaping the entire schedule and recording logic would have been insane at this point.<br /> Especially with the version available back then.<br /> dvd freak decided to reworked his application and renamed it to 4TR during the next months.<br /> <br /> Also DVDFreak did not contact us regarding an integration since MP left the featurefreeze state with the 1.0 release. </li> </ul><p></p><p>So could we intergate 4TR during the next months? </p><p>Yes, in theory we can.</p><p>But everyone has to be aware of a few things.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DVDFreak must release the entire sourcecode under GPL <em>(which only happend for the plugin yet as far as i know)</em>. Last time we talked, he was concerned that someone could "steal" his logic and use it without his permission. Thats why he decided to keep the sources closed. I do not know what he thinks about this now. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">We have to check if the current code even fits into the TV-Server, and evaluate how much rework on both parts is required. <br /> It's not copy/paste code and files to get everything working. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">We have to ensure that those users which are happy with the simple recording and schedule features TV-Server offers, do not get forced to use something more powerful but more complex.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="color: Red">The development speed of 4TR will decrease a lot once it is a part of the TV-Server</span></strong>. Because when we put TV-Server/MediaPortal in feature freeze, then this could last months where no new feature is allowed.<br /> If you look at the featurefreeze period which was required to get MediaPortal 1.0 release done, then you can imagine what this would have ment for 4TR. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> This is the reason why some developers even prefer to stay a communityplugin.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="infinite.loop, post: 364146, member: 10723"] [USER=49885]kkendall[/USER] We have no problem with constructive criticism. But you should realy tone your voice down in here. Some of your posts are close to be considered as flaming. Let me answer your questions now: :) [LIST] [*][COLOR="Red"]Q: [I]"It's not even in the Hot Plugin section"[/I][/COLOR] [*]A: Take a look at the TV-Server Forums. There is no "Hot Plugins" section simply because there are so few plugins that this was not required, nor request by DVDFreak. [/LIST] [LIST] [*][COLOR="red"]Q: [I]"What is it that the devs have against 4TR?"[/I][/COLOR] [*]A: Nothing. Why should we have soething against a community plugin which extends our application? [/LIST] [LIST] [*][COLOR="red"]Q: [I]"Why is it not part of the TV-Server?"[/I][/COLOR] [*]A: At the time it was developed and the first request for an integration came up, we were working on 1.0. We did talk about an integration, one of our developers and myselfe were in contact with DVDfreak. But we came to the conclusion, that swaping the entire schedule and recording logic would have been insane at this point. Especially with the version available back then. dvd freak decided to reworked his application and renamed it to 4TR during the next months. Also DVDFreak did not contact us regarding an integration since MP left the featurefreeze state with the 1.0 release. [/LIST] So could we intergate 4TR during the next months? Yes, in theory we can. But everyone has to be aware of a few things. [LIST=1] [*]DVDFreak must release the entire sourcecode under GPL [I](which only happend for the plugin yet as far as i know)[/I]. Last time we talked, he was concerned that someone could "steal" his logic and use it without his permission. Thats why he decided to keep the sources closed. I do not know what he thinks about this now. :) [*]We have to check if the current code even fits into the TV-Server, and evaluate how much rework on both parts is required. It's not copy/paste code and files to get everything working. ;) [*]We have to ensure that those users which are happy with the simple recording and schedule features TV-Server offers, do not get forced to use something more powerful but more complex. [*][B][COLOR="Red"]The development speed of 4TR will decrease a lot once it is a part of the TV-Server[/COLOR][/B]. Because when we put TV-Server/MediaPortal in feature freeze, then this could last months where no new feature is allowed. If you look at the featurefreeze period which was required to get MediaPortal 1.0 release done, then you can imagine what this would have ment for 4TR. :) This is the reason why some developers even prefer to stay a communityplugin. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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