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<blockquote data-quote="WildBill" data-source="post: 1197046" data-attributes="member: 159982"><p>Thanks for the condescending answer <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I have had WMC with a cable card since it started and been watching for other products for many many years now and understand the issues so when I say "figure it out" I do not just mean technically. Granted the cost is high but the biggest issue is that it takes a near rocket scientist to get it working as measured by the average mass market consumer.</p><p></p><p>I think one of the two big issues that stalled this market are, 1, was while Microsoft built an acceptable front end for mass market consumers WMC, this pretty much iced out products such as yours and I think help kill the potential. However the death blow was when the Major PC makers stopped offering an option to have the new advanced TVCards once things went digital and encrypted. </p><p></p><p>The reason they stopped was because most users could not make it work, and that goes back to the software and hardware guys, they never did the final leg of integration for the hardware, OS, Firewall, and other common issues in installation or fixing when something goes wrong. Plenty of tech makers have solved this final link and those markets all exploded. Microsoft did their part and even the cable companies stepped up and made authorizing a breeze.</p><p></p><p>The fix is for a card maker like Ceton, who also makes a USB version to finish the final leg and have the funding to take losses while building critical mass, the costs you mentioned are not the issue, there are plenty of content providers that make it work just fine, you know, like all of the cable companies on the planet and internet companies like Netflix and Amazon. The missing link is the end point, every one else has stepped up and the business model is wildly successful.</p><p></p><p>This needs to be as easy to hook up and make work as a cable box, it is that simple, and before you tell me how hard it is, Comcast did it... I know it is complex, but you know many have done it, cable box makers, and on the PC side, virtually everything these days just works when you plug it in, even advanced video cards, and also protected content services who have the same licensing challenges.</p><p></p><p>With Microsoft out of the game I think it really opens the door for this if the last leg is closed, when it works even now the feature function and flexibility, one stop shopping for your media world, is far better user experience, now that mine is not harder to use than the DVR, my family loves it and watch all TV in the house with it, but there are not many who can, so again, that is the issue, not the business model.</p><p></p><p>I think that has to come from a company with a product like yours to get the funding to deal with these issues, pay the underfunded hardware makers to develop standards and full software integration, and to take some losses while the base grows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WildBill, post: 1197046, member: 159982"] Thanks for the condescending answer :) I have had WMC with a cable card since it started and been watching for other products for many many years now and understand the issues so when I say "figure it out" I do not just mean technically. Granted the cost is high but the biggest issue is that it takes a near rocket scientist to get it working as measured by the average mass market consumer. I think one of the two big issues that stalled this market are, 1, was while Microsoft built an acceptable front end for mass market consumers WMC, this pretty much iced out products such as yours and I think help kill the potential. However the death blow was when the Major PC makers stopped offering an option to have the new advanced TVCards once things went digital and encrypted. The reason they stopped was because most users could not make it work, and that goes back to the software and hardware guys, they never did the final leg of integration for the hardware, OS, Firewall, and other common issues in installation or fixing when something goes wrong. Plenty of tech makers have solved this final link and those markets all exploded. Microsoft did their part and even the cable companies stepped up and made authorizing a breeze. The fix is for a card maker like Ceton, who also makes a USB version to finish the final leg and have the funding to take losses while building critical mass, the costs you mentioned are not the issue, there are plenty of content providers that make it work just fine, you know, like all of the cable companies on the planet and internet companies like Netflix and Amazon. The missing link is the end point, every one else has stepped up and the business model is wildly successful. This needs to be as easy to hook up and make work as a cable box, it is that simple, and before you tell me how hard it is, Comcast did it... I know it is complex, but you know many have done it, cable box makers, and on the PC side, virtually everything these days just works when you plug it in, even advanced video cards, and also protected content services who have the same licensing challenges. With Microsoft out of the game I think it really opens the door for this if the last leg is closed, when it works even now the feature function and flexibility, one stop shopping for your media world, is far better user experience, now that mine is not harder to use than the DVR, my family loves it and watch all TV in the house with it, but there are not many who can, so again, that is the issue, not the business model. I think that has to come from a company with a product like yours to get the funding to deal with these issues, pay the underfunded hardware makers to develop standards and full software integration, and to take some losses while the base grows. [/QUOTE]
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