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<blockquote data-quote="rogerleifert" data-source="post: 1033443" data-attributes="member: 91014"><p>Hi,</p><p></p><p>I don't know if the DRR fix works for me.</p><p></p><p>I have a 3 monitor/ 2 GFX-card (ATI) system as you can see on the attached snapshot of the display configuration.</p><p>Display #2 is the windows primary desktop on a full-HD TFT (ATI HD4200 GFX-card)</p><p>Display #3 is a windows extended desktop 600x800 VGA monitor on my HTPC case (ATI HD4200 embedded GFX) </p><p>Display #1 is a windows extended desktop on my full-HD TV-set (separate ATI HD5400 GFX-card) where MP is running.</p><p></p><p>Now what irritates me is, that I don't get any on-screen message from DRR about the (changing) refreshrate when e.g. I change from an HD-channel with 50p format to an SD-channel with 25i format or the other way around.</p><p></p><p>So I tested with two different settings:</p><p></p><p>1.) </p><p>-MP-Setting in TV-settings: Fallback Deinterlace-->Disabled (Progressive)</p><p>-LAV-Video Decoder settings-->Deinterlacing method-->disabled (progressive); Hardware Acceleration: DXVA2; YADIF deinterlacing: disabled</p><p></p><p>SHIFT "!" gives...</p><p></p><p>-with SD-Channel at 25i:</p><p>Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz</p><p>Video: 720x576 16:9 Actual FPS:25FPS</p><p>Rptd FPS: 25 Detd FPS:25</p><p>(my TV shows 1080p on Info-screen, but should show 1080i)</p><p></p><p>-with HD-Channel at 50p:</p><p>Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz</p><p>Video: 1920x7206 16:9, Actual FPS:starts smooth then after a few seconds jumps between 25FPS and 30FPS irregularly though the picture is smooth.</p><p>Rptd FPS: 50 Detd FPS:50</p><p></p><p>2.) </p><p>-MP-Setting in TV-settings: Fallback Deinterlace-->Best</p><p>-LAV-Video Decoder settings-->Deinterlacing method-->Auto; Hardware Acceleration: DXVA2; YADIF deinterlacing --> enabled</p><p></p><p>Now when I press SHIFT "!" to see the FPS info I get...</p><p></p><p>with SD-Channel at 25i:</p><p>Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz</p><p>Video: 720x576 16:9 Actual FPS:starts smooth then after a few seconds jumps between 25FPS and 30FPS irregularly though the picture is smooth.</p><p>Rptd FPS: 50 Detd FPS:50</p><p>(my TV shows 1080p on Info-screen, but should show 1080i)</p><p></p><p>with HD-Channel at 50p:</p><p>Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz</p><p>Video: 1920x7206 16:9, Actual FPS:starts smooth then after a few seconds jumps between 25FPS and 35FPS irregularly though the picture is smooth.</p><p>Rptd FPS: 50 Detd FPS:50</p><p></p><p></p><p>Logs are attached for both tests as well as screenshots from the SHIFT "!" infos.</p><p></p><p>Deinterlacing seems to work quite well, because the running texts (especially on CNBC with 3 different text-bands with different speeds) all look clear.</p><p></p><p>When as a test I start MP on the windows primary desktop (Display #2) I get at least the refresh-rate message when starting TV for the first time, even though my TFT only supports 60Hz!</p><p>So I am quite confused.</p><p></p><p>Still one question for understanding:</p><p></p><p>When I do the deinterlacing by the HTPC (e.g. LAV-Video-Decoder with YADIF turned on), then DRR doesn't make sense, or does it?</p><p>So for the test Nr.1 I have disabled YADIF, but deinterlacing is still turned on in CCC (or "AMD Vision Engine Control Center", as it is called now).</p><p>There it can't be turned off, but there is only an option to select the method of deinterlacing from "automatic" to "manual selection" in the section VIDEO-->QUALITY-->VIDEO QUALITY.</p><p></p><p>Do I have to make any settings in MP configuration for deinterlacing, that affect DRR like in TV/RADIO-->TV-->Additional settings --> Fallback Deinterlace-->None or in LAV-Video Decoder settings-->Deinterlacing method-->Disabled? </p><p></p><p>In my understanding the intention of DRR is to send the data in more or less the original refresh rate of the souce-material to the TV-set.</p><p>So any deinterlacing by MP, the Video decoder or the GFX-driver should be turned off.</p><p>Am I right with this?</p><p></p><p>Kind regards</p><p></p><p>Roger</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rogerleifert, post: 1033443, member: 91014"] Hi, I don't know if the DRR fix works for me. I have a 3 monitor/ 2 GFX-card (ATI) system as you can see on the attached snapshot of the display configuration. Display #2 is the windows primary desktop on a full-HD TFT (ATI HD4200 GFX-card) Display #3 is a windows extended desktop 600x800 VGA monitor on my HTPC case (ATI HD4200 embedded GFX) Display #1 is a windows extended desktop on my full-HD TV-set (separate ATI HD5400 GFX-card) where MP is running. Now what irritates me is, that I don't get any on-screen message from DRR about the (changing) refreshrate when e.g. I change from an HD-channel with 50p format to an SD-channel with 25i format or the other way around. So I tested with two different settings: 1.) -MP-Setting in TV-settings: Fallback Deinterlace-->Disabled (Progressive) -LAV-Video Decoder settings-->Deinterlacing method-->disabled (progressive); Hardware Acceleration: DXVA2; YADIF deinterlacing: disabled SHIFT "!" gives... -with SD-Channel at 25i: Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz Video: 720x576 16:9 Actual FPS:25FPS Rptd FPS: 25 Detd FPS:25 (my TV shows 1080p on Info-screen, but should show 1080i) -with HD-Channel at 50p: Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz Video: 1920x7206 16:9, Actual FPS:starts smooth then after a few seconds jumps between 25FPS and 30FPS irregularly though the picture is smooth. Rptd FPS: 50 Detd FPS:50 2.) -MP-Setting in TV-settings: Fallback Deinterlace-->Best -LAV-Video Decoder settings-->Deinterlacing method-->Auto; Hardware Acceleration: DXVA2; YADIF deinterlacing --> enabled Now when I press SHIFT "!" to see the FPS info I get... with SD-Channel at 25i: Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz Video: 720x576 16:9 Actual FPS:starts smooth then after a few seconds jumps between 25FPS and 30FPS irregularly though the picture is smooth. Rptd FPS: 50 Detd FPS:50 (my TV shows 1080p on Info-screen, but should show 1080i) with HD-Channel at 50p: Display: 1920x1080 @ 50Hz, Meas. rfsh: 50Hz Video: 1920x7206 16:9, Actual FPS:starts smooth then after a few seconds jumps between 25FPS and 35FPS irregularly though the picture is smooth. Rptd FPS: 50 Detd FPS:50 Logs are attached for both tests as well as screenshots from the SHIFT "!" infos. Deinterlacing seems to work quite well, because the running texts (especially on CNBC with 3 different text-bands with different speeds) all look clear. When as a test I start MP on the windows primary desktop (Display #2) I get at least the refresh-rate message when starting TV for the first time, even though my TFT only supports 60Hz! So I am quite confused. Still one question for understanding: When I do the deinterlacing by the HTPC (e.g. LAV-Video-Decoder with YADIF turned on), then DRR doesn't make sense, or does it? So for the test Nr.1 I have disabled YADIF, but deinterlacing is still turned on in CCC (or "AMD Vision Engine Control Center", as it is called now). There it can't be turned off, but there is only an option to select the method of deinterlacing from "automatic" to "manual selection" in the section VIDEO-->QUALITY-->VIDEO QUALITY. Do I have to make any settings in MP configuration for deinterlacing, that affect DRR like in TV/RADIO-->TV-->Additional settings --> Fallback Deinterlace-->None or in LAV-Video Decoder settings-->Deinterlacing method-->Disabled? In my understanding the intention of DRR is to send the data in more or less the original refresh rate of the souce-material to the TV-set. So any deinterlacing by MP, the Video decoder or the GFX-driver should be turned off. Am I right with this? Kind regards Roger [/QUOTE]
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