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<blockquote data-quote="fforde" data-source="post: 558042" data-attributes="member: 52082"><p>Dir asked if MPI allows you to check for updates in the GUI. This is <strong>not</strong> possible, and it is not even possible to do this in the MediaPortal Config either. You have to manually launch a third program that will check for updates. While this is perhaps a useful feature for some it is in my opinion ill conceived and I suspect most users will not bother with the third program. If this functionality were integrated into MediaPortal itself I would jump on MPI in a heartbeat. As it is though, this feature is dead on arrival for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is an absurd statement. Do you realize that the two most popular plugins for MediaPortal <strong>do not</strong> use MPI? If the lack of an MPI installer is affecting the size of our user base, I assure you the effect is absurdly minimal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The installer application has very little to do with marketing and nothing to do with communication.</p><p></p><p></p><p>We have used NSIS for several reasons. One of those reasons is we felt we could make a better, more understandable and easier to use installer with NSIS. It is a <strong>standard tool</strong> that billions of people are familiar with. It is used <strong>much much more</strong> than MPI. Don't bring the "familiar" argument into this, because MPI in my opinion fails in this regard.</p><p></p><p>As for a central place to manage plugins and check for updates, I too feel this would be a huge advantage, but as I mentioned above I feel the strategy MPI uses in this respect is very very flawed.</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /> Show a little respect. </p><p></p><p>What frustrates me the most is I am just repeating much of what I have already explained above. Have you even read through this thread? Actually don't answer that. Because I am frankly not at all interested in having this conversation again. I feel I have made it abundantly clear why we do not use MPI. If and when features are added to MediaPortal to better integrate MPI plugins we will switch to it. As it is now, MPI is simply an inferior installation package with MediaPortal branding.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed">EDIT: And to be clear, I think MPI does have some advantages, for example it's much easier to create an MPI package than it is to create an NSIS installer. Especially for skinners who have little experience with programming, this is invaluable. This is not an advantage that really applies to us though. The trade offs do not make MPI worth it for Moving Pictures.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fforde, post: 558042, member: 52082"] Dir asked if MPI allows you to check for updates in the GUI. This is [B]not[/B] possible, and it is not even possible to do this in the MediaPortal Config either. You have to manually launch a third program that will check for updates. While this is perhaps a useful feature for some it is in my opinion ill conceived and I suspect most users will not bother with the third program. If this functionality were integrated into MediaPortal itself I would jump on MPI in a heartbeat. As it is though, this feature is dead on arrival for me. This is an absurd statement. Do you realize that the two most popular plugins for MediaPortal [b]do not[/b] use MPI? If the lack of an MPI installer is affecting the size of our user base, I assure you the effect is absurdly minimal. The installer application has very little to do with marketing and nothing to do with communication. We have used NSIS for several reasons. One of those reasons is we felt we could make a better, more understandable and easier to use installer with NSIS. It is a [b]standard tool[/b] that billions of people are familiar with. It is used [b]much much more[/b] than MPI. Don't bring the "familiar" argument into this, because MPI in my opinion fails in this regard. As for a central place to manage plugins and check for updates, I too feel this would be a huge advantage, but as I mentioned above I feel the strategy MPI uses in this respect is very very flawed. :growl: Show a little respect. What frustrates me the most is I am just repeating much of what I have already explained above. Have you even read through this thread? Actually don't answer that. Because I am frankly not at all interested in having this conversation again. I feel I have made it abundantly clear why we do not use MPI. If and when features are added to MediaPortal to better integrate MPI plugins we will switch to it. As it is now, MPI is simply an inferior installation package with MediaPortal branding. [COLOR="DarkRed"]EDIT: And to be clear, I think MPI does have some advantages, for example it's much easier to create an MPI package than it is to create an NSIS installer. Especially for skinners who have little experience with programming, this is invaluable. This is not an advantage that really applies to us though. The trade offs do not make MPI worth it for Moving Pictures.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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