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<blockquote data-quote="Karyudo" data-source="post: 1050531" data-attributes="member: 65921"><p>Happy New Year!</p><p></p><p>After taking care of some other HTPC stuff, I'm back looking at MP for capturing TV. My USB-UIRT arrived a while back, and I've spent a little bit of time fiddling with it in MP.</p><p></p><p>Reading through your last message, mm1352000, I think we've sort of been talking at cross purposes. I don't understand how MP works in general, nor how the TV Server works specifically. By your own admission, you don't seem to know much about how IR stuff works, nor have I made it very clear about what I'm hoping to achieve. Lemme go one step back, and try to better explain what I'm after, what I think should be possible (focusing on hardware capabilities), and what I've tried...</p><p></p><p>Here's a sketch of the system I've got:<img src="http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1825/vfwq.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>A few things to note:</p><p>• I must be one of the few people with more than one Colossus? Being fed with HDCP-stripped HDMI? Component with S/PDIF is also possible; HDMI just seems more elegant.</p><p>• I'm in Canada, so I'm using Schedules Direct for TV schedules.</p><p>• Both USB-UIRT and WinLIRC hardware appear to support independent blasting of at least two channels, which means it should be possible to individually blast two STBs (with the correct software implementation in MP).</p><p>• The USB-UIRT connection for the two blasters is a stereo 3.5 mm plug. The blasters come with a mono 3.5 mm plug. It's possible to connect the two blasters to independent ports/channels with a stereo-to-L&R audio splitter.</p><p></p><p>In MP (NOT TV Server), I'm able to choose one of many pre-configured (?) remote solutions, including USB-UIRT and WinLIRC. I can't get WinLIRC working, because the setup tab doesn't give me enough hints as to what to do. But I've been able to set up both the remote code learning and STB code learning successfully using USB-UIRT. It's not quite as intuitive or user-friendly as one would hope (for example, I don't see a way to save / load IR remote configuration files), but the 'Test' feature seems to confirm it works.</p><p></p><p>In IRSS, there don't seem to be many things to configure for either WinLIRC or USB-UIRT. And what looks like configuration pages is distressingly blank and undocumented. It seems to be flexible enough to send separate commands or macros or even programs for each keypress (e.g. what happens when you press '1' could be different from what happens when you press '2'), which seems overly complicated -- and I couldn't make it work.</p><p></p><p>Because of the 'Remote' section having been added to MP, and because I was able to get it to record IR codes and understand them when navigating MP, I thought I had everything set up that I needed. That is, IRSS is now unnecessary? (Maybe not?)</p><p></p><p>What I'd like to be able to do is:</p><p>• Browse the Schedules Direct listings in MP with an arbitrary IR remote, and choose shows to record.</p><p>• Make MP and/or MP TV Server aware that I have two Colossus cards, each fed by an HD- and Dolby Digital-capable independent STB over HDMI.</p><p>• Make MP and/or MP TV Server aware that I have two independent IR blasters plugged into a single USB-UIRT (or WinLIRC) host.</p><p>• When two recordings are scheduled at the same time on two separate channels, have MP blast both STB 1 and STB-2 to change the channels independently, and record from both Colossus cards with pre- and post-padding.</p><p>• When two recordings are scheduled back-to-back on the same channel, have MP blast an STB to change the channel for the first show, and record from the Colossus with pre- and post-padding for both shows, without blasting the channel for the second show.</p><p></p><p>I'd like to help work through this, and see if it's possible to upgrade some of these MP components to be more robust and generic, so somebody could throw a couple of Colossus/HD-PVR/other analog capture cards into a computer, add a WinLIRC or USB-UIRT transceiver (receiver+blaster), plus a couple of external STBs, and smoothly set this all up intuitively to work like an off-the-shelf two-tuner PVR would work.</p><p></p><p>Am I on the right track, or completely nuts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karyudo, post: 1050531, member: 65921"] Happy New Year! After taking care of some other HTPC stuff, I'm back looking at MP for capturing TV. My USB-UIRT arrived a while back, and I've spent a little bit of time fiddling with it in MP. Reading through your last message, mm1352000, I think we've sort of been talking at cross purposes. I don't understand how MP works in general, nor how the TV Server works specifically. By your own admission, you don't seem to know much about how IR stuff works, nor have I made it very clear about what I'm hoping to achieve. Lemme go one step back, and try to better explain what I'm after, what I think should be possible (focusing on hardware capabilities), and what I've tried... Here's a sketch of the system I've got:[IMG]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1825/vfwq.jpg[/IMG] A few things to note: • I must be one of the few people with more than one Colossus? Being fed with HDCP-stripped HDMI? Component with S/PDIF is also possible; HDMI just seems more elegant. • I'm in Canada, so I'm using Schedules Direct for TV schedules. • Both USB-UIRT and WinLIRC hardware appear to support independent blasting of at least two channels, which means it should be possible to individually blast two STBs (with the correct software implementation in MP). • The USB-UIRT connection for the two blasters is a stereo 3.5 mm plug. The blasters come with a mono 3.5 mm plug. It's possible to connect the two blasters to independent ports/channels with a stereo-to-L&R audio splitter. In MP (NOT TV Server), I'm able to choose one of many pre-configured (?) remote solutions, including USB-UIRT and WinLIRC. I can't get WinLIRC working, because the setup tab doesn't give me enough hints as to what to do. But I've been able to set up both the remote code learning and STB code learning successfully using USB-UIRT. It's not quite as intuitive or user-friendly as one would hope (for example, I don't see a way to save / load IR remote configuration files), but the 'Test' feature seems to confirm it works. In IRSS, there don't seem to be many things to configure for either WinLIRC or USB-UIRT. And what looks like configuration pages is distressingly blank and undocumented. It seems to be flexible enough to send separate commands or macros or even programs for each keypress (e.g. what happens when you press '1' could be different from what happens when you press '2'), which seems overly complicated -- and I couldn't make it work. Because of the 'Remote' section having been added to MP, and because I was able to get it to record IR codes and understand them when navigating MP, I thought I had everything set up that I needed. That is, IRSS is now unnecessary? (Maybe not?) What I'd like to be able to do is: • Browse the Schedules Direct listings in MP with an arbitrary IR remote, and choose shows to record. • Make MP and/or MP TV Server aware that I have two Colossus cards, each fed by an HD- and Dolby Digital-capable independent STB over HDMI. • Make MP and/or MP TV Server aware that I have two independent IR blasters plugged into a single USB-UIRT (or WinLIRC) host. • When two recordings are scheduled at the same time on two separate channels, have MP blast both STB 1 and STB-2 to change the channels independently, and record from both Colossus cards with pre- and post-padding. • When two recordings are scheduled back-to-back on the same channel, have MP blast an STB to change the channel for the first show, and record from the Colossus with pre- and post-padding for both shows, without blasting the channel for the second show. I'd like to help work through this, and see if it's possible to upgrade some of these MP components to be more robust and generic, so somebody could throw a couple of Colossus/HD-PVR/other analog capture cards into a computer, add a WinLIRC or USB-UIRT transceiver (receiver+blaster), plus a couple of external STBs, and smoothly set this all up intuitively to work like an off-the-shelf two-tuner PVR would work. Am I on the right track, or completely nuts? [/QUOTE]
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