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My friend told me how he was thinking of building an HTPC and how he was going to use Media Portal to do it. I've had an HTPC for a couple years now (MCE 2005 and now Vista) and have loved it!

However, since being told about Media Portal, I've been giving some thought about switching over. Before I do, however, I'd need to ask some questions. Hopefully someone here can help me with them.

1. What sort of video out options are there?
My TV is a 4:3 1080i TV. I know 1080 is a wide screen resolution, so I don't know how this works. When a wide screen resolution is piped into the set, the TV just squishes it into 4:3 format. Everything is really crisp, just really squished. Conversely, having Windows take it back down to 480i brings it into the right format, but everything is just slightly fuzzy and I notice slight over scan. Letting Windows handle it like a monitor is disastrous, however, as trying to make the TV use a standard resolution makes it unusable (no matter what scan rate I tell it to use).

I'd need to be able to use a higher resolution while retaining 4:3.

2. Does it allow the use of video in?
Windows Media Center (no matter which version) does not support video in. Even though my TV Cards have a spot for it, WMC just won't switch to "input". As such, my Xbox and VCR are hooked up using the TV's inputs instead. This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to do, so I thought I'd ask just the same.

3. What's it's CPU and GPU overhead like?
As previously said, my picture looks best at 1080i, despite the squishing. The real reason I don't just deal with squishy faces is that 1080i seems to stress Windows and slow down the overall feel of everything. On top of that, what ever encoder Windows uses to scale the TV signal REALLY doesn't like scaling a standard signal up that high. If MP is easier on system resources, this would be really important to me. Also would be how well it scales the signal up to 1080.

4. What about movie setup?
I know it's in the manual, and wiki, but there aren't many screenshots of it in action. I currently use a program called MyMovies that plugs into WMC and uses a db to store all info. My wife and kids have come to love this feature above all else and would lynch me if I installed a new media program that didn't have something like it.

Sorry for what are probably really dumb questions, but HTPC configuration is one of the more stressing things in my household. My family is fine with me tweaking the crap out of the PC, so long as I can eventually fix it . . . but if you screw up the TV, you're life is forfeit!
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    Welcome to the forum.

    You have a pretty crazy setup there. I'd really invest in a new display.

    How video is output or scaled has nothing to do with your media player. It is about the codecs and filters you use, the format of the source video, and most importantly your video hardware and display's capabilities. You really want a WS display with 720p or 1080p for the best media experience with any media player, IMHO.

    You can definitely use analogue capture ports on BDA compliant TV cards to bring your VCR or STB box output into MP's TV Server for PVR functionality, complete with EPG. Also, if you invest in an IR Blaster you can (most likely) control the external device with MP as well. I'm not sure about Xbox though. In theory it should be possible, but not sure I understand the point.

    How much CPU / GPU is used is really dependent on the source video format, codecs used, and if you want to use hardware acceleration for formats like h.264.

    MP has a built in IMDB grabber and movie database, which can display cover art and basic IMDB info about movies. There is also a new plugin being developed called Moving Pictures, which enhances this capability significantly to include fan art and more comprehensive movie information.

    I would spend some time reading in here to get some more background. MP is a wonderfully capable product, but it does take some effort sometimes to get all the functionality you want. You need to be prepared to spend some time reading and researching, and take it slowly.
     

    Zuke

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    Thank you for your reply!

    I know my TV is whacked, but it was a freebie. Few things will put me into the doghouse faster than 1)screwing up the TV so no one can watch it anymore, and/or 2) buying a new widescreen TV without the wife's ok.

    So my hands are tied for now.

    I have an IR blaster already, and while I wouldn't bother messing with it for the Xbox (it used to be an extender), it'd be helpful for the VCR.

    That's good to know about the scaling issue within TV signals. I'm afraid I can't do much about the signal quality, but maybe there are some other codecs that could be used to help my situation.

    It seems like the last issue will be whether or not my TV will accept the signal without massive overscan issues or refresh rate problems.
     

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    For the external input on the tuner card...

    Sure, you could set it up in MP, but one's a better idea than the other.

    For a VCR (e.g. to capture stuff from tape) just go into TV configuration and add a channel for the external connection (probably SVHS#1 for the S-video port, for example). It'll show in the guide with no data and you can just select the source that way.

    Not a good idea for XBox. There's simply too much delay. Yes, it'd capture it, but it'd be about impossible to play.

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    Zuke

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    OK, I installed it to my desktop (not my HTPC) to get a feel for how everything works, and I really like it so far.

    I'm still not sure about my video issues, but I'll figure a way around that I guess.

    Anywho, I was wondering about something; in the configuration, I can set up movies really easily, and I like that a lot! However, I don't want to lump my videos in with my movies! We have Home movies, some clips I've collected over the years, music videos, and TV shows that I don't want listed in my movie collection. Am I missing a setting somewhere?
     

    Zuke

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    I was hoping for more of a separate Movie plugin, I guess.

    I've been playing around with a couple of plugins, so My TV Shows are now separate from My Music Videos, but videos and movies are still all in one area.

    OK, I think I just figured out why things aren't working for me as well as I had hoped.

    Half of this site seems to be rather old and out-dated. When I search for plugins, many of them haven't been updated for years. This seems to be causing skin issues when switching back and forth between plugins, and perhaps some dependency issues (I don't know, can RC3 run everything the same as the other versions?)

    Is there a better place to look for newer plugins?
     

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