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On XmlTV update, TV guide keeps programs that have been removed, if nothing else is in their place.
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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1176970" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Hmmm, I understand what you mean. Using programs as markers in the way that you described is quite a specific and unusual scenario. TV Server and the XMLTV plugin assume every program is a real program - there's no concept of markers. They're also optimised to minimise gaps in the guide data. The combination of those 2 factors obviously doesn't fit very well with your scheme.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I confess I do have that feeling. However I wonder if there's an alternative solution that would be more robust in the long term. Two questions come to mind:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Could you use a different mechanism (for example, email - ie. have the grabber send you an email when it runs into problems) to monitor whether the grabber is working or not differently?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">From an even wider perspective: is there a reason you've chosen to use this custom grabber over more reliable solutions such as EPG Collector or even TV Server's built in DVB EPG grabber?</li> </ol><p></p><p></p><p>Are your schedules "record every time on every channel" type schedules?</p><p>If yes, that would conveniently explain all the behaviour you described. You could avoid the problem by using "record every time on this channel" schedules instead. It should also be possible to cancel the TEN HD recordings using the cancel episode function (rather than deleting the schedules completely).</p><p>If no, I have no idea how or why MediaPortal would have behaved that way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Does it need to be for specific channels?</p><p>I'm pretty sure the "refresh DVB EPG" button in the "manual control" section of TV Server Configuration purges all EPG data... but it does it for all channels.</p><p></p><p></p><p>AFAIK the only thing that would force MP to dump a program is a newer overlapping program. That's why item E in tvguide-import3.xml triggers deletion of item D. Gaps in guide data (like the gap between items C and E in tvguide-import2.xml) don't cause existing programs within the gap to be deleted.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, definitely not. As mentioned above: both TV Server and the XMLTV plugin assume every program is a real program. All programs are treated the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A final alternative possibility...</p><p>Instead of inserting your "TV Guide Data Expiry" marker programs <strong>after </strong>the last real program, could you instead insert it <strong>in the last minute</strong> of the last real program?</p><p>I think that may work as a solution because it would change when/how the overlaps work. The full explanation is too complex! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1176970, member: 82144"] Hmmm, I understand what you mean. Using programs as markers in the way that you described is quite a specific and unusual scenario. TV Server and the XMLTV plugin assume every program is a real program - there's no concept of markers. They're also optimised to minimise gaps in the guide data. The combination of those 2 factors obviously doesn't fit very well with your scheme. Yes, I confess I do have that feeling. However I wonder if there's an alternative solution that would be more robust in the long term. Two questions come to mind: [LIST=1] [*]Could you use a different mechanism (for example, email - ie. have the grabber send you an email when it runs into problems) to monitor whether the grabber is working or not differently? [*]From an even wider perspective: is there a reason you've chosen to use this custom grabber over more reliable solutions such as EPG Collector or even TV Server's built in DVB EPG grabber? [/LIST] Are your schedules "record every time on every channel" type schedules? If yes, that would conveniently explain all the behaviour you described. You could avoid the problem by using "record every time on this channel" schedules instead. It should also be possible to cancel the TEN HD recordings using the cancel episode function (rather than deleting the schedules completely). If no, I have no idea how or why MediaPortal would have behaved that way. Does it need to be for specific channels? I'm pretty sure the "refresh DVB EPG" button in the "manual control" section of TV Server Configuration purges all EPG data... but it does it for all channels. AFAIK the only thing that would force MP to dump a program is a newer overlapping program. That's why item E in tvguide-import3.xml triggers deletion of item D. Gaps in guide data (like the gap between items C and E in tvguide-import2.xml) don't cause existing programs within the gap to be deleted. No, definitely not. As mentioned above: both TV Server and the XMLTV plugin assume every program is a real program. All programs are treated the same. A final alternative possibility... Instead of inserting your "TV Guide Data Expiry" marker programs [B]after [/B]the last real program, could you instead insert it [B]in the last minute[/B] of the last real program? I think that may work as a solution because it would change when/how the overlaps work. The full explanation is too complex! ;) [/QUOTE]
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