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<blockquote data-quote="FenMP" data-source="post: 608562" data-attributes="member: 103768">Hi sdf,first of all thank you for your reply. (As you know people read the posts, only some want to reply, but only a few finally does it)The reason why I wanted hardware encoding was for recording (but I see now that I might be wrong about it!!!). This is the way I see it: <ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">You receive the DVB-T signal in &quot;whatever format&quot; and you want to save it to the HDD (record the tv). </li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">You want to record it either as MPEG4 (DivX or Xvid) or H264, but the CPU needs too much processing power to do it. </li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">But if you have a hardware encoder that supports those formats then you might free some CPU cycles.</li>
</ol>Examples of what I think. ATTENTION!!! THIS NUMBERS ARE NOT REAL FIGURES they are just rough numbers of how I think the system works. (I dont want to create any misunderstandings). So please correct me if Im wrong and point me in the right direction towards what Im looking for, Thanks <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />[CODE]Harware&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Recording&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; RECORDING DVB-T&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; RECORDING HDTVEncoder&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Format&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Usage&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Usage&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; TV Card&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; CPU&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; TV Card&nbsp; &nbsp; CPUNO&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MPEG-4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 55%&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 75%NO&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; H.264&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 70%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 55%&nbsp; &nbsp; 110%MPEG-4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MPEG-4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 80%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 100%&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 12%MPEG-4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; H.264&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 70%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 55%&nbsp; &nbsp; 110%H.264&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MPEG-4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 55%&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 75%H.264&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; H.264&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 80%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 100%&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 15%Both&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MPEG-4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 60%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 80%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8%Both&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; H.264&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 70%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 99%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10%[/CODE]As you can see&nbsp; in the table before, the more quality the signal has the more resources it requires. If you dont have an encoder most of the work lays on the CPU. If you have an encoder that supports the format you are recording, the encoding runs on the card instead of the CPU. I didnt think about &quot;you&quot; being able to decode the DVB-T signal on the card was the reason why you would need a hardware encoder, as I thought all TVCards are harware DEcoders, but only some of them are hardware ENcoders. Plus, nowadays, you can (if you are lucky) decode some HD sources through the GPU with ATI &quot;whatever the name it is&quot; and NVIDIA Purevideo.But please, any info you can give me, it would be appreciate it, specially regarding to what card you guys would recommend me. Thanks Paranoid Delusion, I DO own an ATI x1950 PRO 512 (ITS A BEAST!!!) but I was planning on selling it and not to install it on my parents HTPC, plus, as you well said, I DO NEED a better power supply (as the one that was powering this card, its now powering my new system with a HD4830)<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> (60$ cost me about a year ago, NEW <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />).I thought it was only required 10GB/s of bandwidth on the card (which my version of 6200 has it. I know, I know, thats the maximum the card does, and its the minimum required, but I can always give it a bump and overclock it a bit (lets say to get 12GB/s) Which could help. It does have 3 Sata HDD/s&nbsp; and the PC its mainly going to be used for standard DVB-T, but eventually It would be used for HDTV. Isnt there a TVCard that can process the whole HDTV and free the CPU and GPU?? (im not saying free them both 100% each but, hey maybe free them 40% so they run at 60% or something.) Maybe using some codecs more balanced that doesnt depend so much on the GPU nor the CPU but equally both of them, I dont know. Thanks to all, again <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />One last thing. Nobody have told what you guys think about that TVCard. The BG3500.PS: And another one. I have read in a few places that the 6200 was ok for an HTPC. and a HD2400 recommended. Basically graphic cards with a very low processing power and very low bandwidth. But thats just what I read!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FenMP, post: 608562, member: 103768"] Hi sdf, first of all thank you for your reply. (As you know people read the posts, only some want to reply, but only a few finally does it) The reason why I wanted hardware encoding was for recording (but I see now that I might be wrong about it!!!). This is the way I see it: [LIST=1] [*]You receive the DVB-T signal in "whatever format" and you want to save it to the HDD (record the tv). [*]You want to record it either as MPEG4 (DivX or Xvid) or H264, but the CPU needs too much processing power to do it. [*]But if you have a hardware encoder that supports those formats then you might free some CPU cycles. [/LIST] Examples of what I think. [COLOR="Red"]ATTENTION!!![/COLOR] THIS NUMBERS ARE [U][B][FONT="Arial Black"]NOT REAL FIGURES [/FONT][/B][/U]they are just rough numbers [U]of how [B]I think[/B] the system works[/U]. (I dont want to create any misunderstandings). So please correct me if Im wrong and point me in the right direction towards what Im looking for, Thanks :) [CODE] Harware Recording RECORDING DVB-T RECORDING HDTV Encoder Format Usage Usage TV Card CPU TV Card CPU NO MPEG-4 40% 40% 55% 75% NO H.264 40% 70% 55% 110% MPEG-4 MPEG-4 80% 5% 100% 12% MPEG-4 H.264 40% 70% 55% 110% H.264 MPEG-4 40% 40% 55% 75% H.264 H.264 80% 5% 100% 15% Both MPEG-4 60% 3% 80% 8% Both H.264 70% 5% 99% 10%[/CODE] As you can see in the table before, the more quality the signal has the more resources it requires. If you dont have an encoder most of the work lays on the CPU. If you have an encoder that supports the format you are recording, the encoding runs on the card instead of the CPU. I didnt think about "you" being able to decode the DVB-T signal on the card was the reason why you would need a hardware encoder, as I thought all TVCards are harware [U]DE[/U]coders, but only some of them are hardware [U]EN[/U]coders. Plus, nowadays, you can (if you are lucky) decode some HD sources through the GPU with ATI "whatever the name it is" and NVIDIA Purevideo. But please, any info you can give me, it would be appreciate it, specially regarding to what card you guys would recommend me. Thanks Paranoid Delusion, I DO own an ATI x1950 PRO 512 (ITS A BEAST!!!) but I was planning on selling it and not to install it on my parents HTPC, plus, as you well said, I DO NEED a better power supply (as the one that was powering this card, its now powering my new system with a HD4830):) (60$ cost me about a year ago, NEW :D). I thought it was only required 10GB/s of bandwidth on the card (which my version of 6200 has it. I know, I know, thats the maximum the card does, and its the minimum required, but I can always give it a bump and overclock it a bit (lets say to get 12GB/s) Which could help. It does have 3 Sata HDD/s and the PC its mainly going to be used for standard DVB-T, but eventually It would be used for HDTV. Isnt there a TVCard that can process the whole HDTV and free the CPU and GPU?? (im not saying free them both 100% each but, hey maybe free them 40% so they run at 60% or something.) Maybe using some codecs more balanced that doesnt depend so much on the GPU nor the CPU but equally both of them, I dont know. Thanks to all, again :) One last thing. Nobody have told what you guys think about that TVCard. The BG3500. PS: And another one. I have read in a few places that the 6200 was ok for an HTPC. and a HD2400 recommended. Basically graphic cards with a very low processing power and very low bandwidth. But thats just what I read!! [/QUOTE]

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