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Thanks it was worth a try buy no go still.  The tvguide.xml file i have is confimed working earlier in this post so i dont think its the actual xml file so I think we've succesfully eliminated mc2xml or the tvguide.xml itself as the problem.  I did however try your tvguide.xml and dtd together to be thorough.  Results:

10 channels imported

0 programs imported (after mapping my channel 24 to one of the random channels in your tvguide.xml and hitting save then import.

I think its now pretty for certain that it must be something to do with:

xmltv itself or

xmltv plugin

anyone have an older version of the xmltvimporter.dll?  I have version 1.0.2.22555

Thanks for the help guys even though it didn't work I definitely don't feel abandoned!

David