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<blockquote data-quote="CyberSimian" data-source="post: 1099206" data-attributes="member: 141969"><p>I have now tested the latest updates. I tested only 1228x690, since prior tests have not revealed any differences between 1228x690 and 1360x768. Also, I looked only at "Filmstrip" and "Coverflow", both for "Covers" and "Thumbs". I did not notice any differences in behaviour between "Filmstrip" and "Coverflow". Finally, I mostly tested using a folder containing a single TS and XML combination, recorded previously using MP.</p><p></p><p>(1) The arrows do not behave quite as I would have expected. Actually, I am now a bit confused as to what they are supposed to indicate, either:</p><p>(a) Presence of an arrow on screen indicates that the corresponding arrow key can be pressed to do something useful, or</p><p>(b) Presence of an arrow on screen indicates that there is something off-screen in the direction indicated by the arrow, and that "thing" can be brought on-screen by pressing the corresponding arrow key.</p><p></p><p><strong>Filmstrip Covers -- Focus on First Box in List</strong></p><p>(2) Entering the folder in "Filmstrip Covers", the focus was on the box for the parent folder. The left arrow was visible but the LEFT key did nothing. This seems wrong for both (a) and (b),</p><p></p><p>There was no right arrow. This would be correct for (b) but wrong for (a).</p><p></p><p>There was no down arrow, but DOWN did nothing. This is correct for (a) and (b), BUT it causes a "screen blink". A screen blink is when the application blanks the screen (or part of the screen), and then redisplays the identical information (i.e. the screen blink was completely pointless). Screen blinks are visually very disruptive. The comparison is with pressing LEFT, which also does nothing but does <em>not</em> causes a screen blink. If this is controllable by the skin, I think that you should try to avoid screen blinks whenever possible.</p><p></p><p>UP displayed the side-bar menu with the first choice highlighted (correct).</p><p></p><p><strong>Filmstrip Covers -- Focus on Second (=Last) Box in List</strong></p><p>(3) A left arrow was present, but LEFT moved the focus left. This is correct for (a) and (b).</p><p></p><p>A right arrow was present but RIGHT did nothing (and did not cause a screen blink). This is wrong for both (a) and (b).</p><p></p><p>UP displayed the side-bar menu with the first choice highlighted, and DOWN displayed the programme info. This is correct for (a) and (b).</p><p></p><p>I also tried another folder with more boxes than could fit on the screen. This time there was no right arrow, but pressing RIGHT moved the focus right, and eventually scrolled the boxes to bring into view the boxes off-screen. Absence of the right arrow is incorrect for both (a) and (b), except when the focus is on the last box in the list.</p><p></p><p><strong>Filmstrip Thumbs -- Focus on First Thumb in List</strong></p><p>(4) Same as corresponding case for "Filmstrip Covers".</p><p></p><p><strong>Filmstrip Thumbs -- Focus on Second (=Last) Thumb in List</strong></p><p>(5) Similar to "Filmstrip Covers", except for:</p><p></p><p>No right arrow (correct, since focus is on the second (last) thumb).</p><p></p><p>UP displays the side-menu with the first choice hightlighted. This is correct for (a) and (b).</p><p></p><p>DOWN displays the side-bar menu <em>with no choice highlighted</em>. The corresponding case for "Covers" displays the programme info, and I think that "Thumbs" should too (there doesn't seem to be any reason not to). </p><p></p><p>UP and DOWN demonstrate the problem with the highlighting of the side-bar menu: UP highlights the first choice, whereas DOWN highlights no choice. If the panel definition is the same with respect to UP and DOWN in this situation, it indicates that the highlighting problem probably originates with MP.</p><p></p><p>I also tried another folder with more thumbs than could fit on the screen; this had the same error as the corresponding case for "Covers", namely the right arrow was missing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I checked this again, by starting "DefaultWide" using a desktop shortcut that specified the "/skin" option on the invocation of "MediaPortal.exe" (I don't know whether this is quite the same as changing the skin setting in "MP Config"). There is a gap in the list of choices where "Thumb background" would be, but I have to admit that I could not find any setting in "DefaultWide" to switch between "Covers" and "Thumbs"!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have only 3-4 WTV test files, which I recorded when I was trialling Windows7 to decide whether to migrate from Vista (I decided against making that move!). My library of recordings is entirely DVR-MS, and I have the technology to extract metadata from DVR-MS files. I have written a REXX script to extract the metadata and create an XML file containing the relevant info, so I will use that to create the XML files for MP to use.</p><p></p><p>More generally, when I start using a complex application, I prefer to use the standard setup for a few months, to get an idea of how reliable it is. Add-ons and extensions are unlikely to <em>improve</em> reliability, but can easily <em>reduce</em> reliability. If you install a new application and immediately load it with extensions, it becomes difficult to identify what is causing the problem.</p><p></p><p>-- from CyberSimian in the UK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CyberSimian, post: 1099206, member: 141969"] I have now tested the latest updates. I tested only 1228x690, since prior tests have not revealed any differences between 1228x690 and 1360x768. Also, I looked only at "Filmstrip" and "Coverflow", both for "Covers" and "Thumbs". I did not notice any differences in behaviour between "Filmstrip" and "Coverflow". Finally, I mostly tested using a folder containing a single TS and XML combination, recorded previously using MP. (1) The arrows do not behave quite as I would have expected. Actually, I am now a bit confused as to what they are supposed to indicate, either: (a) Presence of an arrow on screen indicates that the corresponding arrow key can be pressed to do something useful, or (b) Presence of an arrow on screen indicates that there is something off-screen in the direction indicated by the arrow, and that "thing" can be brought on-screen by pressing the corresponding arrow key. [B]Filmstrip Covers -- Focus on First Box in List[/B] (2) Entering the folder in "Filmstrip Covers", the focus was on the box for the parent folder. The left arrow was visible but the LEFT key did nothing. This seems wrong for both (a) and (b), There was no right arrow. This would be correct for (b) but wrong for (a). There was no down arrow, but DOWN did nothing. This is correct for (a) and (b), BUT it causes a "screen blink". A screen blink is when the application blanks the screen (or part of the screen), and then redisplays the identical information (i.e. the screen blink was completely pointless). Screen blinks are visually very disruptive. The comparison is with pressing LEFT, which also does nothing but does [I]not[/I] causes a screen blink. If this is controllable by the skin, I think that you should try to avoid screen blinks whenever possible. UP displayed the side-bar menu with the first choice highlighted (correct). [B]Filmstrip Covers -- Focus on Second (=Last) Box in List[/B] (3) A left arrow was present, but LEFT moved the focus left. This is correct for (a) and (b). A right arrow was present but RIGHT did nothing (and did not cause a screen blink). This is wrong for both (a) and (b). UP displayed the side-bar menu with the first choice highlighted, and DOWN displayed the programme info. This is correct for (a) and (b). I also tried another folder with more boxes than could fit on the screen. This time there was no right arrow, but pressing RIGHT moved the focus right, and eventually scrolled the boxes to bring into view the boxes off-screen. Absence of the right arrow is incorrect for both (a) and (b), except when the focus is on the last box in the list. [B]Filmstrip Thumbs -- Focus on First Thumb in List[/B] (4) Same as corresponding case for "Filmstrip Covers". [B]Filmstrip Thumbs -- Focus on Second (=Last) Thumb in List[/B] (5) Similar to "Filmstrip Covers", except for: No right arrow (correct, since focus is on the second (last) thumb). UP displays the side-menu with the first choice hightlighted. This is correct for (a) and (b). DOWN displays the side-bar menu [I]with no choice highlighted[/I]. The corresponding case for "Covers" displays the programme info, and I think that "Thumbs" should too (there doesn't seem to be any reason not to). UP and DOWN demonstrate the problem with the highlighting of the side-bar menu: UP highlights the first choice, whereas DOWN highlights no choice. If the panel definition is the same with respect to UP and DOWN in this situation, it indicates that the highlighting problem probably originates with MP. I also tried another folder with more thumbs than could fit on the screen; this had the same error as the corresponding case for "Covers", namely the right arrow was missing. I checked this again, by starting "DefaultWide" using a desktop shortcut that specified the "/skin" option on the invocation of "MediaPortal.exe" (I don't know whether this is quite the same as changing the skin setting in "MP Config"). There is a gap in the list of choices where "Thumb background" would be, but I have to admit that I could not find any setting in "DefaultWide" to switch between "Covers" and "Thumbs"! I have only 3-4 WTV test files, which I recorded when I was trialling Windows7 to decide whether to migrate from Vista (I decided against making that move!). My library of recordings is entirely DVR-MS, and I have the technology to extract metadata from DVR-MS files. I have written a REXX script to extract the metadata and create an XML file containing the relevant info, so I will use that to create the XML files for MP to use. More generally, when I start using a complex application, I prefer to use the standard setup for a few months, to get an idea of how reliable it is. Add-ons and extensions are unlikely to [I]improve[/I] reliability, but can easily [I]reduce[/I] reliability. If you install a new application and immediately load it with extensions, it becomes difficult to identify what is causing the problem. -- from CyberSimian in the UK [/QUOTE]
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