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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1168061" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>TV Server itself never renumbers, renames or reorders channels unless you specifically ask it to do so. Even when rescanning TV Server does not rename or renumber channels. Therefore the "interventions" you mentioned are almost certainly coming from the SchedulesDirect plugin or shortfalls in your understanding of how our database structure works.</p><p></p><p>Here are a few recommendations I have to specifically address the scenario you mentioned:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">As I said above, TV Server doesn't modify channel ordering unless you do it intentionally, and I'm pretty sure the SD plugin doesn't have any capability to do ordering at all. Therefore I wonder if you're actually setting the order in the correct place. <strong>The correct place to set channel order is within channel groups (ie. as shown --><a href="http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/03_TV_Channels#Other_groups" target="_blank">here</a><--). Modifying the order in the first tab ("Channels...") has no effect on the order in the guide.</strong><br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The standard SD plugin does automatically renumber channels, and that behaviour can't be disabled. Other people complained about that behaviour so I released a modified version --><a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/solved-schedules-direct-plugin-tv-server-unwanted-channel-numbering-changes.124291/page-2#post-1071392" target="_blank">here</a><-- which ties the behaviour to the existing "rename..." setting (ie. if you disable renaming then renumbering is also disabled). Unfortunately that mod seems to have gone ignored by the plugin maintainer(s). There's not much I can do about that. If you would like the modification to be included in the standard SD plugin release then please nag the plugin maintainer(s).<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Consider switching to mc2xml (which includes support for SD) + XMLTV plugin. Advantages/disadvantages of this alternative approach would be:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">mc2xml can pull the new-style SD "JSON" EPG data which contains season and episode numbers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the mapping between SD "guide channels" and TV Server "scanned channels" is completely within your control (only really applicable for your ATSC channels... and usually the SD plugin does ATSC channels fine; it's cable lineups/channels that it struggles with)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">absolutely no channel creation, renaming, renumbering or reordering supported (note this is a "two-edged sword", because you currently rely on the SD plugin to create your Colossus/satellite channels for you; without the SD plugin, you'd have had to figure out a way to import/create them all manually or with a DB script)</li> </ul></li> </ol><p></p><p>Note that if you only care about having the ATSC channels last in the guide then recommendation 1 should be sufficient, and you can stick with the default numbers. That's probably the least hassle option.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is an SD plugin thing. Ensure you've unticked the "automatically add new digital cable/satellite channels" option in the SD plugin configuration advanced options tab.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As above: anything that happens "automatically" (actually, usually on TV Server start/restart and/or when the SD plugin does its guide data update) is being done by the SD plugin.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Cool. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm, I don't really follow. The SD plugin should be responsible for creating your satellite channels. However, you should have used TV Server's scanning process to pull in your OTA channels. Therefore I'm not sure how you could end up with that situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1168061, member: 82144"] TV Server itself never renumbers, renames or reorders channels unless you specifically ask it to do so. Even when rescanning TV Server does not rename or renumber channels. Therefore the "interventions" you mentioned are almost certainly coming from the SchedulesDirect plugin or shortfalls in your understanding of how our database structure works. Here are a few recommendations I have to specifically address the scenario you mentioned: [LIST=1] [*]As I said above, TV Server doesn't modify channel ordering unless you do it intentionally, and I'm pretty sure the SD plugin doesn't have any capability to do ordering at all. Therefore I wonder if you're actually setting the order in the correct place. [B]The correct place to set channel order is within channel groups (ie. as shown -->[URL='http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/141_Configuration/TV-Server_Configuration/03_TV_Channels#Other_groups']here[/URL]<--). Modifying the order in the first tab ("Channels...") has no effect on the order in the guide.[/B] [*]The standard SD plugin does automatically renumber channels, and that behaviour can't be disabled. Other people complained about that behaviour so I released a modified version -->[URL='https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/solved-schedules-direct-plugin-tv-server-unwanted-channel-numbering-changes.124291/page-2#post-1071392']here[/URL]<-- which ties the behaviour to the existing "rename..." setting (ie. if you disable renaming then renumbering is also disabled). Unfortunately that mod seems to have gone ignored by the plugin maintainer(s). There's not much I can do about that. If you would like the modification to be included in the standard SD plugin release then please nag the plugin maintainer(s). [*]Consider switching to mc2xml (which includes support for SD) + XMLTV plugin. Advantages/disadvantages of this alternative approach would be: [LIST] [*]mc2xml can pull the new-style SD "JSON" EPG data which contains season and episode numbers [*]the mapping between SD "guide channels" and TV Server "scanned channels" is completely within your control (only really applicable for your ATSC channels... and usually the SD plugin does ATSC channels fine; it's cable lineups/channels that it struggles with) [*]absolutely no channel creation, renaming, renumbering or reordering supported (note this is a "two-edged sword", because you currently rely on the SD plugin to create your Colossus/satellite channels for you; without the SD plugin, you'd have had to figure out a way to import/create them all manually or with a DB script) [/LIST] [/LIST] Note that if you only care about having the ATSC channels last in the guide then recommendation 1 should be sufficient, and you can stick with the default numbers. That's probably the least hassle option. Again, this is an SD plugin thing. Ensure you've unticked the "automatically add new digital cable/satellite channels" option in the SD plugin configuration advanced options tab. As above: anything that happens "automatically" (actually, usually on TV Server start/restart and/or when the SD plugin does its guide data update) is being done by the SD plugin. Cool. (y) Hmmm, I don't really follow. The SD plugin should be responsible for creating your satellite channels. However, you should have used TV Server's scanning process to pull in your OTA channels. Therefore I'm not sure how you could end up with that situation. [/QUOTE]
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