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<blockquote data-quote="doveman" data-source="post: 874433" data-attributes="member: 67412"><p>Hi mm1352000</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for your reply and questions. I am aware of the limited time and interest for developing the TV server and the main purpose of my post was to see if I could inspire anyone with the requisite skills and time to get involved in assisting, as well as to share my ideas for consideration for the future.</p><p> </p><p>I recall being advised by someone a while ago that there was some issue with the database being locked in MP which would prevent updating the channel list from within it, but that may well not be the case and I'm sure you'd know better about that than I.</p><p> </p><p>I did think that TV Server might not be grabbing all the data available from Freeview when scanning, being that it's designed to work with multiple sources, hence my suggestion to use ScanChannelsBDA as a base, but I could well be wrong on that point as well. Perhaps I was thinking of the Series Link and Freeview Playback, which use additional broadcast information (see these posts by yours truly!):</p><p><a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/feature-request-implement-freeview-series-link.98854/" target="_blank">https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/feature-request-implement-freeview-series-link.98854/</a></p><p><a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/feature-request-implement-freeview-playback.98853/" target="_blank">https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/feature-request-implement-freeview-playback.98853/</a></p><p></p><p>The idea of a separate app came about because I was advised that it's not feasible to modify the TV Server config to suit Freeview-only owners as it has to accommodate various other setups (Freesat, Freeview+Freesat, etc) which have particular issues (e.g. multiple channels with the same name) which would prevent us being able to automate the channel scanning and detecting new/renamed/moved channels in the manner of a Freeview STB. These issues would also apply to scanning from within MP and I couldn't imagine two versions of MP (a Freeview-friendly and a multi-source) being developed, which led to my idea of a separate app so that MP itself wouldn't need to be changed but instead the app would handle the channel scanning/arranging and (if desired) as well as a Freeview-only version, a multi-source version could also be developed.</p><p> </p><p>I'd say my primary driver for this idea is to make MediaPortal more accessible to non-technical users, who are used to STB and being able to scan and rearrange the channel list easily using the GUI. For them, TV Server config will be very confusing and daunting and I'd like to see a situation where, once MP has been initially set-up for them, the user never needs to use it and certainly not for routine and necessary tasks such as scanning and updating renamed/deleted/moved/new channels, which should be automated as much as possible. The app could also manage re-assigning scheduled recordings where channels have been renamed, probably by means of a user prompt rather than automatically, which as far as I'm aware isn't currently manageable outside of TV Server config (I'm not even sure if it is within that).</p><p> </p><p>Even for more technical users, TV Server config doesn't handle Freeview very well, due to needing to accommodate other sources and thus not being able to automate new/moved/renamed/deleted channel detection and when I (also a single-seat user) use it I still find it easier to delete the entire channel list before scanning rather than trying to pick through it afterwards to work out which channels shouldn't be there. As I say, I don't anticipate it being changed in this respect due to the need for it to accommodate multiple sources, so a separate app for Freeview users would get around this problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doveman, post: 874433, member: 67412"] Hi mm1352000 Thanks for your reply and questions. I am aware of the limited time and interest for developing the TV server and the main purpose of my post was to see if I could inspire anyone with the requisite skills and time to get involved in assisting, as well as to share my ideas for consideration for the future. I recall being advised by someone a while ago that there was some issue with the database being locked in MP which would prevent updating the channel list from within it, but that may well not be the case and I'm sure you'd know better about that than I. I did think that TV Server might not be grabbing all the data available from Freeview when scanning, being that it's designed to work with multiple sources, hence my suggestion to use ScanChannelsBDA as a base, but I could well be wrong on that point as well. Perhaps I was thinking of the Series Link and Freeview Playback, which use additional broadcast information (see these posts by yours truly!): [url]https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/feature-request-implement-freeview-series-link.98854/[/url] [url]https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/feature-request-implement-freeview-playback.98853/[/url] The idea of a separate app came about because I was advised that it's not feasible to modify the TV Server config to suit Freeview-only owners as it has to accommodate various other setups (Freesat, Freeview+Freesat, etc) which have particular issues (e.g. multiple channels with the same name) which would prevent us being able to automate the channel scanning and detecting new/renamed/moved channels in the manner of a Freeview STB. These issues would also apply to scanning from within MP and I couldn't imagine two versions of MP (a Freeview-friendly and a multi-source) being developed, which led to my idea of a separate app so that MP itself wouldn't need to be changed but instead the app would handle the channel scanning/arranging and (if desired) as well as a Freeview-only version, a multi-source version could also be developed. I'd say my primary driver for this idea is to make MediaPortal more accessible to non-technical users, who are used to STB and being able to scan and rearrange the channel list easily using the GUI. For them, TV Server config will be very confusing and daunting and I'd like to see a situation where, once MP has been initially set-up for them, the user never needs to use it and certainly not for routine and necessary tasks such as scanning and updating renamed/deleted/moved/new channels, which should be automated as much as possible. The app could also manage re-assigning scheduled recordings where channels have been renamed, probably by means of a user prompt rather than automatically, which as far as I'm aware isn't currently manageable outside of TV Server config (I'm not even sure if it is within that). Even for more technical users, TV Server config doesn't handle Freeview very well, due to needing to accommodate other sources and thus not being able to automate new/moved/renamed/deleted channel detection and when I (also a single-seat user) use it I still find it easier to delete the entire channel list before scanning rather than trying to pick through it afterwards to work out which channels shouldn't be there. As I say, I don't anticipate it being changed in this respect due to the need for it to accommodate multiple sources, so a separate app for Freeview users would get around this problem. [/QUOTE]
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