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<blockquote data-quote="RoChess" data-source="post: 542493" data-attributes="member: 18896"><p>Thanks for the discussion, but let me eleborate on my intentions. The reason most of us use MovingPictures is so things go automatic <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>So I figured I give a point of view that perhaps an extra configuration option should be added that controls how movies are added so that they sort correctly out of the box. Some people do prefer "The [title]" to be listed under the 'T', and others prefer "[Title]" so that they jump to letter 'A' to find "The Art Of War". A simple checkbox option would be nice to offer users the option between those two, without having to manually correct everything. Both ways are possible, one would be to fill the sortby field with "The [title]" and the other would be to fill the sortby field with "[title]".</p><p></p><p>It is the current usage of "[title], The" that causes the order problem I tried to convey. Now bodiroga's explanation is probably exactly what I'm looking for, it would ignore ", The" from the sortby field, thereby leaving a sortby entry such as "The Matrix" alone (still haven't been able to test it, as wife is still hogging it).</p><p></p><p>But going by fforde's example of Indiana Jones, the plugin could have a 'smart' look at the alternative titles and look for numbers at the end of the title or Roman numerals such as IV and autoreplace those with decimal numbers. "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" for example has an alternative title "Indiana Jones 4", which could be used to properly sort the entire Indiana Jones series without any manual interaction. Looking for numbers at the end of the title would be important to avoid conflicts with titles were the numbers are part of the title, such as "3 Ninjas". The 4th movie is the only one in that series that has an alternative title "3 Ninjas 4" that could be used in the automatic smart sorting, but in that case maybe the plugin can just log an error that smart-filtering failed, so that for those rare exceptions a manual rename can be applied.</p><p></p><p>I notice that imdb.com lacks a lot of alternative titles on older movies that could assist in the proper smart filtering, but themoviedb.org seems to be more complete (and can be adjusted with the help of the community easier). Another fallback would be for the smart-filter to look at the Year, because with the exception of Star Wars (only one that pops into my mind) most titles run in a chronological order.</p><p></p><p>Not everybody might prefer this, so I was hoping for like a "Use smart title sequel sorting" checkbox option in configuration or something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RoChess, post: 542493, member: 18896"] Thanks for the discussion, but let me eleborate on my intentions. The reason most of us use MovingPictures is so things go automatic :D So I figured I give a point of view that perhaps an extra configuration option should be added that controls how movies are added so that they sort correctly out of the box. Some people do prefer "The [title]" to be listed under the 'T', and others prefer "[Title]" so that they jump to letter 'A' to find "The Art Of War". A simple checkbox option would be nice to offer users the option between those two, without having to manually correct everything. Both ways are possible, one would be to fill the sortby field with "The [title]" and the other would be to fill the sortby field with "[title]". It is the current usage of "[title], The" that causes the order problem I tried to convey. Now bodiroga's explanation is probably exactly what I'm looking for, it would ignore ", The" from the sortby field, thereby leaving a sortby entry such as "The Matrix" alone (still haven't been able to test it, as wife is still hogging it). But going by fforde's example of Indiana Jones, the plugin could have a 'smart' look at the alternative titles and look for numbers at the end of the title or Roman numerals such as IV and autoreplace those with decimal numbers. "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" for example has an alternative title "Indiana Jones 4", which could be used to properly sort the entire Indiana Jones series without any manual interaction. Looking for numbers at the end of the title would be important to avoid conflicts with titles were the numbers are part of the title, such as "3 Ninjas". The 4th movie is the only one in that series that has an alternative title "3 Ninjas 4" that could be used in the automatic smart sorting, but in that case maybe the plugin can just log an error that smart-filtering failed, so that for those rare exceptions a manual rename can be applied. I notice that imdb.com lacks a lot of alternative titles on older movies that could assist in the proper smart filtering, but themoviedb.org seems to be more complete (and can be adjusted with the help of the community easier). Another fallback would be for the smart-filter to look at the Year, because with the exception of Star Wars (only one that pops into my mind) most titles run in a chronological order. Not everybody might prefer this, so I was hoping for like a "Use smart title sequel sorting" checkbox option in configuration or something. [/QUOTE]
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