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<blockquote data-quote="Smirnuff" data-source="post: 19552" data-attributes="member: 10545"><p>My time is better served coding than expressing my opinions here but on this occasion I feel obliged to make a few comments and would request that each of the advocates for a freeze put themselves in the shoes of the team members for a few moments, ignoring the fact that we don't get paid to do this and have day jobs and families and so on, thats not so important as we actually choose to spend some of our free time coding for MP...</p><p></p><p>Through the course of a day a skilled developer can make a huge dent in a bug list when presented with the appropriate information. We don't have enough serious and dedicated testers to have that information to hand so usually spend more time trying to recreate a bug than we do fixing it. It would be very nice to have a small army of developers, it would be nice to get back to a point where we can do fun things like code Tetris plugins and so on, but the real need IMO is for more testers. If you want the stability of MP to improve then its time you all started doing something for yourselves!!!</p><p></p><p>We are all doing our level best to develop an application that we hope will go on to be the undisputed leader in its class. We have the skills and the motivation to achieve this goal, however we aren't miracle workers and for me it comes back to the sad fact that the community don't do enough to help themselves, you're not helping us here, we can take care of most of those ourselves the following day, you are helping the 16 people that you communicate with via ICQ and your families' trouble free evening of TV and movie viewing via MP.</p><p></p><p>My closing comments would be that we simply cannot win, we freeze and you'll ask for features, we give you more features and you want us to freeze. You disagree? <strong>The thread starter, posted a feature request just 3 days ago yet today he's suggesting a feature freeze?!?!?!</strong></p><p></p><p>For me such threads serve no real purpose, in fact all they tend to do is lessen my motivation <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />. What would be really useful is if a couple of you could get together and come up with a structured approach to testing and then offer your services to the team, that way you'll have a hand in driving towards a marked improvement in stability.</p><p></p><p><em>@kamrat: I'm not sure what it is that you're doing but it would be good if you could look into it, I've deleted your duplicate posts at least 6 times already today <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Smirnuff, post: 19552, member: 10545"] My time is better served coding than expressing my opinions here but on this occasion I feel obliged to make a few comments and would request that each of the advocates for a freeze put themselves in the shoes of the team members for a few moments, ignoring the fact that we don't get paid to do this and have day jobs and families and so on, thats not so important as we actually choose to spend some of our free time coding for MP... Through the course of a day a skilled developer can make a huge dent in a bug list when presented with the appropriate information. We don't have enough serious and dedicated testers to have that information to hand so usually spend more time trying to recreate a bug than we do fixing it. It would be very nice to have a small army of developers, it would be nice to get back to a point where we can do fun things like code Tetris plugins and so on, but the real need IMO is for more testers. If you want the stability of MP to improve then its time you all started doing something for yourselves!!! We are all doing our level best to develop an application that we hope will go on to be the undisputed leader in its class. We have the skills and the motivation to achieve this goal, however we aren't miracle workers and for me it comes back to the sad fact that the community don't do enough to help themselves, you're not helping us here, we can take care of most of those ourselves the following day, you are helping the 16 people that you communicate with via ICQ and your families' trouble free evening of TV and movie viewing via MP. My closing comments would be that we simply cannot win, we freeze and you'll ask for features, we give you more features and you want us to freeze. You disagree? [b]The thread starter, posted a feature request just 3 days ago yet today he's suggesting a feature freeze?!?!?![/b] For me such threads serve no real purpose, in fact all they tend to do is lessen my motivation :(. What would be really useful is if a couple of you could get together and come up with a structured approach to testing and then offer your services to the team, that way you'll have a hand in driving towards a marked improvement in stability. [i]@kamrat: I'm not sure what it is that you're doing but it would be good if you could look into it, I've deleted your duplicate posts at least 6 times already today ;)[/i] [/QUOTE]
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