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<blockquote data-quote="tomtom21000" data-source="post: 19605" data-attributes="member: 10287"><p><strong>Example for a test plan</strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.maisenbachers.de/dokuw/testing:plugins:msnmessenger?s=test+plan" target="_blank">http://www.maisenbachers.de/dokuw/testing:plugins:msnmessenger?s=test+plan</a></p><p></p><p>MrMitchel did this. I hope it does not scare you off. I don´t know if he is still going through his testplan on every release.</p><p>I don´t know if it is necessary for every release, since the msnmanger-plugin hasn´t been worked on for some time. But then, thinks may break at a place where you wouldn´t expect it to do so.</p><p></p><p>So I agree, that for willing testers there should be a more precise statement about the "how to".</p><p></p><p>And the whole forum consists of testers, with all sorts of systems, and level of skills. But a reliable set of testers to sort things out on irc or to test before a release would surely be a good addition.</p><p></p><p>And from your original call for testers, there was a tremendous feedback. Within days there were about a hundred support statements. I don´t know how this was handled behind the scenes (irc/pm), so I can´t comment on this, the public feedback on the forums from the devs wasn´t big. </p><p></p><p>My personal point of view: I am more of the feature hunting fraction <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I think with MP we are in an nearly ideal world:</p><p>You can stay on a rather stable version (like I do now most of the times)</p><p>or you can install a new cvs version three times a day, if you are curious for new features or wait for a specific bug to be solved.</p><p></p><p>And believe me there is room for features and bug fixing.</p><p>The fastest reaction time for a feature request I experienced was 90 minutes. Posted at 7:30 a.m., weather images were available at 9:00 a.m.</p><p></p><p>And where do you find a project where the developers allmost always take their time to help out on irc. I have seen bugs fixed on the irc-chat within 10 minutes unnumerous times.</p><p></p><p>Yes I also see the need of stability and the need for ease of use plus the easy setup. Everything is being worked on. But imagine: According to sourceforge statistics, MP has been downloaded over 12,000 times alone in the last 7 days. Most of these people are not here on the forums and they do not have the slightest idea about the difference between overlay and vmr9 renderless and they don´t care.</p><p>They are more digital:</p><p>works - works not</p><p>like - like not</p><p>work out of the box, wizzards, standard - expert settings, flexibility + templates</p><p>will help to make mp ready for the masses.</p><p>Win some distribution partners ( with hardware that definitely works with mp) already started, but also needs manpower.</p><p>Do some serious press work ( another vacant job <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>This will attract developers, too.</p><p></p><p>Last thing for today: Rethink the distribution policy. Decide which modules are core features for a htpc.</p><p>Implement a plugin download and install routine. Ideal from within mp, with a short description of the plugin, screenshot etc. Think about a system to reserve string-ids for external plugins in the strings.xml or let them have there own strings files.</p><p></p><p>Some late thoughts. Third evening I am up until 2:00 a.m. Got to go to bed earlier <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>tomtom</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomtom21000, post: 19605, member: 10287"] [b]Example for a test plan[/b] [url]http://www.maisenbachers.de/dokuw/testing:plugins:msnmessenger?s=test+plan[/url] MrMitchel did this. I hope it does not scare you off. I don´t know if he is still going through his testplan on every release. I don´t know if it is necessary for every release, since the msnmanger-plugin hasn´t been worked on for some time. But then, thinks may break at a place where you wouldn´t expect it to do so. So I agree, that for willing testers there should be a more precise statement about the "how to". And the whole forum consists of testers, with all sorts of systems, and level of skills. But a reliable set of testers to sort things out on irc or to test before a release would surely be a good addition. And from your original call for testers, there was a tremendous feedback. Within days there were about a hundred support statements. I don´t know how this was handled behind the scenes (irc/pm), so I can´t comment on this, the public feedback on the forums from the devs wasn´t big. My personal point of view: I am more of the feature hunting fraction ;) I think with MP we are in an nearly ideal world: You can stay on a rather stable version (like I do now most of the times) or you can install a new cvs version three times a day, if you are curious for new features or wait for a specific bug to be solved. And believe me there is room for features and bug fixing. The fastest reaction time for a feature request I experienced was 90 minutes. Posted at 7:30 a.m., weather images were available at 9:00 a.m. And where do you find a project where the developers allmost always take their time to help out on irc. I have seen bugs fixed on the irc-chat within 10 minutes unnumerous times. Yes I also see the need of stability and the need for ease of use plus the easy setup. Everything is being worked on. But imagine: According to sourceforge statistics, MP has been downloaded over 12,000 times alone in the last 7 days. Most of these people are not here on the forums and they do not have the slightest idea about the difference between overlay and vmr9 renderless and they don´t care. They are more digital: works - works not like - like not work out of the box, wizzards, standard - expert settings, flexibility + templates will help to make mp ready for the masses. Win some distribution partners ( with hardware that definitely works with mp) already started, but also needs manpower. Do some serious press work ( another vacant job :) ) This will attract developers, too. Last thing for today: Rethink the distribution policy. Decide which modules are core features for a htpc. Implement a plugin download and install routine. Ideal from within mp, with a short description of the plugin, screenshot etc. Think about a system to reserve string-ids for external plugins in the strings.xml or let them have there own strings files. Some late thoughts. Third evening I am up until 2:00 a.m. Got to go to bed earlier ;) tomtom [/QUOTE]
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