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<blockquote data-quote="CyberSimian" data-source="post: 1283016" data-attributes="member: 141969"><p>I tried this earlier today, and WebEPG did grab some EPG, but success was only partial. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>WebEPG downloads its EPG from various web sites, which are (I think) defined in an xml file in an MP folder. For the UK, WebEPG defines three web sites, but these could be changed by modifying the xml file. The web sites defined by default are: <strong>RadioTimes</strong>, <strong>Bleb</strong>, and <strong>Digiguide</strong>.</p><p></p><p>My recollection is that RadioTimes stopped providing a downloadable EPG several years ago, and this is what I found in my test -- the channel that was defined to use the RadioTimes web site received no EPG. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>I have heard of Bleb, but I know nothing more, and I suspect that either they have stopped providing a downloadable EPG, or they have changed the download interface and WebEPG is still using the old interface. In my test, the one channel that was defined to use Bleb received no EPG. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>The third web site is Digiguide, and in my test the four channels that were defined to use Digiguide did receive an EPG <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" />. Looking on the Digiguide web site, they provide a basic EPG which is free, and a premium EPG which costs £15 per year. In both cases you need to create an account. However, I did not do that, and yet the EPG was still downloaded successfully. It is possible that MP has its own account on Digiguide, and that WebEPG was using that (this is merely a speculation <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite12" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" loading="lazy" data-shortname="o_O" />).</p><p></p><p>Finally, there was one channel in my test that could not be defined to use any of the three web sites. This channel was "Talking Pictures TV", and it was absent from all of the channel lists provided by RadioTimes, Bleb, and Digiguide.</p><p></p><p>Looking at the EPG info from Digiguide, it certainly is more detailed than the broadcast EPG. In addition, the EPG xml file has the tag for series and episode numbers, which the broadcast EPG does not, so another plus for Digiguide. On the other hand, if Digiguide does not cover all UK channels that you want to view and record, you have to use a second EPG provider. The broadcast EPG provides an EPG for all DVB-T/T2 channels of course, albeit with less detail and no series and episode numbers.</p><p></p><p>I tested this with my "Film" channel group, which contains only seven channels, and grabbed for one day only, so it completed quickly (although there is a strange pause where is says "Finishing grabbing", but it has not actually finished, so wait a bit longer until it says "Grabbing finished").</p><p></p><p>I would suggest modifying your WebEPG settings so that all channels use Digiguide. Don't forget to click the "Save" button on the WebEPG "General" tab after making changes. Then click "Grab now", and you should see the "Grab status" line updated with the info about what is currently being grabbed.</p><p></p><p>To determine which channels actually receive an EPG, I would suggest emptying the EPG first, by disabling the idle and timeshift DVB grabbers and then clicking "Refresh DVB EPG" in the "Manual Control" section. It will claim that EPG grabbing will start shortly, but it is being economical with the truth -- if both idle and timeshift grabbers are disabled, no grabbing occurs (but the existing EPG will be deleted).</p><p></p><p>I did not test the scheduling on the WebEPG "Schedule" tab, so I don't know whether that works correctly.</p><p></p><p>-- from CyberSimian in the UK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CyberSimian, post: 1283016, member: 141969"] I tried this earlier today, and WebEPG did grab some EPG, but success was only partial. :( WebEPG downloads its EPG from various web sites, which are (I think) defined in an xml file in an MP folder. For the UK, WebEPG defines three web sites, but these could be changed by modifying the xml file. The web sites defined by default are: [B]RadioTimes[/B], [B]Bleb[/B], and [B]Digiguide[/B]. My recollection is that RadioTimes stopped providing a downloadable EPG several years ago, and this is what I found in my test -- the channel that was defined to use the RadioTimes web site received no EPG. :( I have heard of Bleb, but I know nothing more, and I suspect that either they have stopped providing a downloadable EPG, or they have changed the download interface and WebEPG is still using the old interface. In my test, the one channel that was defined to use Bleb received no EPG. :( The third web site is Digiguide, and in my test the four channels that were defined to use Digiguide did receive an EPG (y). Looking on the Digiguide web site, they provide a basic EPG which is free, and a premium EPG which costs £15 per year. In both cases you need to create an account. However, I did not do that, and yet the EPG was still downloaded successfully. It is possible that MP has its own account on Digiguide, and that WebEPG was using that (this is merely a speculation o_O). Finally, there was one channel in my test that could not be defined to use any of the three web sites. This channel was "Talking Pictures TV", and it was absent from all of the channel lists provided by RadioTimes, Bleb, and Digiguide. Looking at the EPG info from Digiguide, it certainly is more detailed than the broadcast EPG. In addition, the EPG xml file has the tag for series and episode numbers, which the broadcast EPG does not, so another plus for Digiguide. On the other hand, if Digiguide does not cover all UK channels that you want to view and record, you have to use a second EPG provider. The broadcast EPG provides an EPG for all DVB-T/T2 channels of course, albeit with less detail and no series and episode numbers. I tested this with my "Film" channel group, which contains only seven channels, and grabbed for one day only, so it completed quickly (although there is a strange pause where is says "Finishing grabbing", but it has not actually finished, so wait a bit longer until it says "Grabbing finished"). I would suggest modifying your WebEPG settings so that all channels use Digiguide. Don't forget to click the "Save" button on the WebEPG "General" tab after making changes. Then click "Grab now", and you should see the "Grab status" line updated with the info about what is currently being grabbed. To determine which channels actually receive an EPG, I would suggest emptying the EPG first, by disabling the idle and timeshift DVB grabbers and then clicking "Refresh DVB EPG" in the "Manual Control" section. It will claim that EPG grabbing will start shortly, but it is being economical with the truth -- if both idle and timeshift grabbers are disabled, no grabbing occurs (but the existing EPG will be deleted). I did not test the scheduling on the WebEPG "Schedule" tab, so I don't know whether that works correctly. -- from CyberSimian in the UK [/QUOTE]
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