TVEngine3 or PVR Scheduler ? (1 Viewer)

[geenreg]

Recently I switched from MCE2005, having continous video stuttering problems, to Mediaportal 0.2.3.0. So far I am impressed with the Mediaportal functionality and quality. Now I want to install more functionality to get my HTPC working as a full PVR scheduler. Reading the wiki and forum I found to possibilities:
a) TVEngine3
b) PVR SCheduler (payware)

Could somebody explain to me the advantages of one or the other (except cost). I searched the forum, but could not find a clear answer. The MediaPortal TV-Server WIKI is extensive, but seems rather complex to get working. On first notice, PVR Scheduler seems easier to integrate with MP and more stable ?

Case: Silverstone LC16M with IMON VFD
Motherboard: ASUS M2NPV-VM, integrated HD Audio (Soundmax), with latest bios
Graphics: ASUS EN8500GT Silent 512 HTP (HDCP COmpliant), with NVIDIA 163.75 driver
TV: FloppyDTV-C + alphacrypt cam, with firmware 1.2.7, and latest MCE BDA drivers
Memory: 2 Gb

MediaPortal Version: 0.2.3.0
MediaPortal Skin: XFace
Windows Version: MCE2005 Rollup2 + all updates
Audio Codec: NVIDIA Purevideo
Video Codec: NVIDIA Purevideo
CPU Type: AMD's Athlon 64 X2 4600+
Memory: 2 GB
Motherboard Chipset: GeForce 6150
TV Card Model: FloppyDTV-C
TV Card Type: FloppyDTV-C
TV Card Driver: 4-5N
Video Card Model: ASUS EN8500GT Silent 512 HTP
Video Card Driver: 163.75
Video Card Resolution: 1280x768
Video Render Type: VMR9
Audio Card Model: Soundmax Integrated Digital
Audio Card Driver: Latest

 

[The_Stig]

Hi & welcome geenreg,

I guess you got something wrong here. Mediaportal gives all possibilities you want without to pay for anything

I would suggest you to read the wiki a bit: http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/

There you find many infos. If you installed MP 0.2.3.0. you have everything inbuild (a tvengine and the plugin Powerscheduler, which takes care of wakeup/shutdown of the system).
We have too the possibility of an advanced TVEngine (http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/TV-Engine_0.3) which is still beta but working good for many users. Pls read a bit about all this stuf. If anything keeps unclear for you, just ask your question (but please use the search before to see if there isnt a topic already about your problem).

In short: You don't need PVR Scheduler.

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

PVRS is really only of any use, if you have TV card problems with Mediaportal (my T500 for example), i know this may be a bit of a understatement (sorry stsc), the average user does not need it's extra funtionality.

TVE3's own Powerscheduler plugin and Mediaportals powerscheduler client plugin, need to be correctly configured and will schedule power up from standby for recording and resume standby once recording finished.

If these do not work correctly, then i would recommend PVRScheduler.

stig beat me to it.

 

[dvdfreak]

Since this is about recording TV and scheduling I can't help but plug my rule-based scheduler

https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/rule_based_tvscheduler_service-t26158.html

There's a TVE3 plugin for TV Scheduler at the moment, so perhaps it will help you chose between TVE3 and PowerScheduler.

 

[geenreg]

Hi & welcome geenreg,

I guess you got something wrong here. Mediaportal gives all possibilities you want without to pay for anything

I would suggest you to read the wiki a bit: http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/

There you find many infos. If you installed MP 0.2.3.0. you have everything inbuild (a tvengine and the plugin Powerscheduler, which takes care of wakeup/shutdown of the system).
We have too the possibility of an advanced TVEngine (http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/TV-Engine_0.3) which is still beta but working good for many users. Pls read a bit about all this stuf. If anything keeps unclear for you, just ask your question (but please use the search before to see if there isnt a topic already about your problem).

In short: You don't need PVR Scheduler.

Thanks for your reaction. I have installed 0.2.3.0 and tried the PowerScheduler but it was not able to wake-up from standby even once (tried sleep and hybernate and other settings). Further I tried several combinations with MST standby tool (latest release) and bios settings. In MCE 2005 I did not have any standby/wake-up problems using S1(POS) in combination with MST standby tool. However I was not able to get S3 working, probably as a result of the IMON-VFD. The settings that worked with MCE2005 do not work with MP. I tried all kind of combinations, so I suppose it is no good for me.

Reading the WIKI for TVEngine3 I got the impression it was essential to get the PowerScheduler working, but I now understand it should work stand alone, which it unfortunately does not for me.

Ideas are welcome (I did not found more clues on the forum and WIKI)? I would rather skip the TVEngineS3 installation, because it is still a beta release and the installation instructions are long.

PVRS is really only of any use, if you have TV card problems with Mediaportal (my T500 for example), i know this may be a bit of a understatement (sorry stsc), the average user does not need it's extra funtionality.

TVE3's own Powerscheduler plugin and Mediaportals powerscheduler client plugin, need to be correctly configured and will schedule power up from standby for recording and resume standby once recording finished.

If these do not work correctly, then i would recommend PVRScheduler.

stig beat me to it.

Thanks for your reaction. I did have standby issues with MCE 2005, but these were solved and was working perfectly (see previous reply). I think the IMON VFD was creating the standby issues and not my FloppyDTV-C, however I am not certain. The only setting that worked with MCE 2005 was S1(POS) in combination with MST STandby tool. This did not work with MP PowerScheduler.

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

I did have standby issues with MCE 2005, but these were solved and was working perfectly (see previous reply). I think the IMON VFD was creating the standby issues and not my FloppyDTV-C, however I am not certain. The only setting that worked with MCE 2005 was S1(POS) in combination with MST STandby tool. This did not work with MP PowerScheduler

By the sound of it your motherboard is not ACPI compliant, or needs BIOS settings updated\changed to allow S3\S4.

 

[geenreg]

I did have standby issues with MCE 2005, but these were solved and was working perfectly (see previous reply). I think the IMON VFD was creating the standby issues and not my FloppyDTV-C, however I am not certain. The only setting that worked with MCE 2005 was S1(POS) in combination with MST STandby tool. This did not work with MP PowerScheduler

By the sound of it your motherboard is not ACPI compliant, or needs BIOS settings updated\changed to allow S3\S4.

It is a 1 year old multimedia motherboard that supports ACPI 2.0.

I recently update to the latest BIOS firmware. S3 did not work for me, because some not ACPI compliant hardware directly restarts the HTPC after switching to standby, probably the IMON VFD. Using S3 I was not able to solve this with the MST Standby tool. The only working BIOS setting was S1(POS) in combination with MCE2005 and using MST Standby tool, selecting 'disable selective USB suspend'. The only disadvantage is that I can not wake the HTPC using the remote. I do not mind this and hoped to get it working with MP.

 

[RobNorthcott]

You may already know this, but just in case... PowerScheduler will only wake up the system if it has been left to shut down on its own (leaving on MP home menu for the set length of time). If you put the machine into standby manually (even from the MP menu) then it will not wake up.

As long as it is left to shut down automatically, I find PowerScheduler wakes up the machine very reliably. I have problems with it not shutting down after recording sometimes, but it always wakes up reliably.

Rob

 

[geenreg]

You may already know this, but just in case... PowerScheduler will only wake up the system if it has been left to shut down on its own (leaving on MP home menu for the set length of time). If you put the machine into standby manually (even from the MP menu) then it will not wake up.

As long as it is left to shut down automatically, I find PowerScheduler wakes up the machine very reliably. I have problems with it not shutting down after recording sometimes, but it always wakes up reliably.

Rob

Thanks, I also found this hint yesterday in a post and tried it immediately.
It works !!!!!! Being used to MCE 2005 this was not logical for me
at all !

I re-checked the WIKI for this information, but was still not able to find it.
I do not understand why MP can not perform the same action when you
switch it via the MP home menu to sleep ?

I hope MP adds this information to the WIKI at an easy to find location,
that would be helpfull

I will also try PVR-Scheduler, because I do not like to keep MP active all
the time.

 

[RobNorthcott]

I do not understand why MP can not perform the same action when you
switch it via the MP home menu to sleep ?

No I don't either - I would have thought it wouldn't be hard to do, but presumably there's a reason why it hasn't been done. It would be really nice if it worked from the MP menu standby.

Rob