Two tuners, one recording scrambled possible? (1 Viewer)

[der_caveman]

Hi!

Say I have two tuners, tuner a with a CI/CAM/SC combination and tuner b without CI.

Is it possible to record scrambled channel x with tuner b while I view unscrambled channel y with tuner a and to unscramble the recorded channel x later by the CI/CAM/SC of tuner a?

, caveman.

 

[joystick]

wow, what a complicated phrase...

lets make it easy:

No

cheers

joystick

 

[der_caveman]

Ok, then I have to look for another piece of software.

Edit: May I ask why?

TIA,
caveman.

 

[joystick]

Ig I understand your question right, you will not find another software that can do the descrambling "afterwards", this is actually more hardware related.

To get things right; you want to

record a scrabled channel on the tuner with no CI, and "decode " the recording when it'S finished. This is not possible because the decoding is done by the Cam/ci. It is decoding the TV stream (the "antenna" stream" ), and is not doing anything while you watch a recording, because there simply is no physical stream, also your recording already will be black.

But, what you can do anyway is watch/record a scrambled channel on your tuner with Ci, watch another channel on the same transponder on the same tuner, and also record/watch an unscrabled channel on your tuner without CI, and watch anther channel (unscrabled) on the same transpüonder on the same (second) tuner.

Can you follow my explanation?

cheers

joystick

 

[der_caveman]

Ig I understand your question right, you will not find another software that can do the descrambling "afterwards", this is actually more hardware related.

To get things right; you want to

record a scrabled channel on the tuner with no CI, and "decode " the recording when it'S finished.

That's it.

This is not possible because the decoding is done by the Cam/ci. It is decoding the TV stream (the "antenna" stream" ), and is not doing anything while you watch a recording, because there simply is no physical stream, also your recording already will be black.

How do USB- CI's work then?

But, what you can do anyway is watch/record a scrambled channel on your tuner with Ci, watch another channel on the same transponder on the same tuner, and also record/watch an unscrabled channel on your tuner without CI, and watch anther channel (unscrabled) on the same transpüonder on the same (second) tuner.

Can you follow my explanation?

Yes, but -as you will know- that's not enough in germany.

THX,
caveman.

 

[joystick]

Zitat:
Zitat von joystick
This is not possible because the decoding is done by the Cam/ci. It is decoding the TV stream (the "antenna" stream" ), and is not doing anything while you watch a recording, because there simply is no physical stream, also your recording already will be black.

How do USB- CI's work then?

the same way, their drivers are hoocked in the stream.

You mainly have this issue if you are using DVB-C and only have one ci and subscription card, that's why I will switch to DVB-s asap, once i have the other "projects" finished.

cheers
joystick

there is however a chance to use smartwi (wifi card emulators), I have bought this system, but not yet configured.... seems to be promising...

 

[der_caveman]

Hmm, somebody should "invent" a (hardware) CI with DirectShow Filter, so you can input a scrambled stream (which is redirected to the real hardware CI) and on the output side you get a descrambled stream (output from the real hardware CI). Thought that an USB CI would have been something like that. Sad.

caveman.

 

[Eabin]

USB CI _is_ something like that. only that there is no officially documented API how to use them, AFAIK.

 

[der_caveman]

USB CI _is_ something like that. only that there is no officially documented API how to use them, AFAIK.

And that's why I can't understand "CEOs" (in german: "Schlipsträger").
Hauppauge would sell a lot more units if they would supply such a DirectShow filter or an API...

the same way, their drivers are hoocked in the stream.

Wait- that means timeshifting doesn't work either, right?