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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1142439" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>There are 2 advantages:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The idle EPG grabber won't be activated if TV Server is constantly timeshifting or recording. Therefore you won't get any EPG at all unless you enable the timeshifting grabber.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The timeshifting grabber is more likely to receive last minute updates than the idle grabber, because the idle EPG grabber may only run once every 24 hours whereas the timeshifting grabber runs every time you tune a checked channel.</li> </ol><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you have completely misunderstood how the grabber works. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p>This is the last time I can explain.</p><p></p><p><strong>Timeshifting:</strong></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Channel is tuned (timeshifting or recording) => grabber starts.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">EPG data complete or timeout reached => grabber stores EPG.</li> </ol><p>Nothing else happens after this unless you change to a different channel. Grabbing for additional MUXes won't ever happen unless you change to a channel from a different MUX.</p><p></p><p><strong>Idle:</strong></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">All tuners become idle => grabber activated.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The grabber gets the list of channels for grabbing (checked channels).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Repeat for each channel in the list, until any tuner is needed for timeshifting/recording or the list is complete (grabbing complete for all channels)...<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Grabber tunes channel.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">EPG data complete or timeout reached => grabber stores EPG.</li> </ol></li> </ol><p></p><p>The timeout is always applied for each channel/MUX. There is no grabbing timeout for all MUXes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said to CyberSimian, the time varies from provider to provider, channel to channel, and grab to grab. My point is: you cannot expect grab times to be consistent.</p><p></p><p>Tuning:</p><p>[2015-06-28 21:10:50,177] [Log ] [22 ] [INFO ] - dvbc: Tune<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />VBC:tv:UPC Barrandov TV HD Freq:770000 ONID:1 TSID:117 SID:1701 PMT:0xAB0 FTA:True LCN:10000 SymbolRate:6900 Modulation:Mod64Qam</p><p></p><p>Grab starts:</p><p>[2015-06-28 21:10:50,655] [Log ] [22 ] [INFO ] - Timeshifting epg grabber started.</p><p></p><p>Grab completed:</p><p>[2015-06-28 21:12:41,064] [EPG ] [21 ] [INFO ] - dvb:mhw ready MHW 0 titles found</p><p>[2015-06-28 21:12:41,064] [EPG ] [21 ] [INFO ] - dvb:dvb ready.EPG 183 channels</p><p>[2015-06-28 21:12:44,059] [EPG ] [21 ] [INFO ] - TimeshiftingEpgGrabber: OnEPGReceived got 183 channels</p><p></p><p></p><p>Neither. It was during what happens between grabbing and storing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPG and EPG grabbing is not simple, and the situation varies from provider to provider. Therefore I don't think you will ever find a simple document.</p><p>It took me months or years to fully understand. If you want to understand more then my advice is to read the specifications. If you don't want to read specifications then perhaps you could look for books at your local library or something, because I cannot spend months or years explaining to you. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1142439, member: 82144"] There are 2 advantages: [LIST=1] [*]The idle EPG grabber won't be activated if TV Server is constantly timeshifting or recording. Therefore you won't get any EPG at all unless you enable the timeshifting grabber. [*]The timeshifting grabber is more likely to receive last minute updates than the idle grabber, because the idle EPG grabber may only run once every 24 hours whereas the timeshifting grabber runs every time you tune a checked channel. [/LIST] Again, you have completely misunderstood how the grabber works. :( This is the last time I can explain. [B]Timeshifting:[/B] [LIST=1] [*]Channel is tuned (timeshifting or recording) => grabber starts. [*]EPG data complete or timeout reached => grabber stores EPG. [/LIST] Nothing else happens after this unless you change to a different channel. Grabbing for additional MUXes won't ever happen unless you change to a channel from a different MUX. [B]Idle:[/B] [LIST=1] [*]All tuners become idle => grabber activated. [*]The grabber gets the list of channels for grabbing (checked channels). [*]Repeat for each channel in the list, until any tuner is needed for timeshifting/recording or the list is complete (grabbing complete for all channels)... [LIST=1] [*]Grabber tunes channel. [*]EPG data complete or timeout reached => grabber stores EPG. [/LIST] [/LIST] The timeout is always applied for each channel/MUX. There is no grabbing timeout for all MUXes. As I said to CyberSimian, the time varies from provider to provider, channel to channel, and grab to grab. My point is: you cannot expect grab times to be consistent. Tuning: [2015-06-28 21:10:50,177] [Log ] [22 ] [INFO ] - dvbc: Tune:DVBC:tv:UPC Barrandov TV HD Freq:770000 ONID:1 TSID:117 SID:1701 PMT:0xAB0 FTA:True LCN:10000 SymbolRate:6900 Modulation:Mod64Qam Grab starts: [2015-06-28 21:10:50,655] [Log ] [22 ] [INFO ] - Timeshifting epg grabber started. Grab completed: [2015-06-28 21:12:41,064] [EPG ] [21 ] [INFO ] - dvb:mhw ready MHW 0 titles found [2015-06-28 21:12:41,064] [EPG ] [21 ] [INFO ] - dvb:dvb ready.EPG 183 channels [2015-06-28 21:12:44,059] [EPG ] [21 ] [INFO ] - TimeshiftingEpgGrabber: OnEPGReceived got 183 channels Neither. It was during what happens between grabbing and storing. EPG and EPG grabbing is not simple, and the situation varies from provider to provider. Therefore I don't think you will ever find a simple document. It took me months or years to fully understand. If you want to understand more then my advice is to read the specifications. If you don't want to read specifications then perhaps you could look for books at your local library or something, because I cannot spend months or years explaining to you. :) [/QUOTE]
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