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<blockquote data-quote="Maedhros" data-source="post: 354090" data-attributes="member: 17242"><p>Nazgulled..... Have you ever bothered to look into things before playing Einstein? .... And yes, excuse my tone, however you already managed to turn this post into a flamewar and I am just here to greet you to the world of computer science. I am a Software Engineer, I am very well aware of what is going on at Microsoft.... Although your little UAC-trick hardens Internet Explorer and such, it is still in a sense false security.... UAC is simply put implemented the wrong way. I am not saying I have a better one up my sleeve, but I know a design-flaw when I see one.... It is just like their infamous SuperFetch service that tries to predict the future and load crap into my memory.... no thanks! .... It kills your laptop and your harddrive, and I for one just HATE the seeking noise..... again.... flawed by design.</p><p></p><p>Your little TweakUAC only turns off that annoying popup.... But do really think that you are safe? .... If I had the time, I could sit down and write a piece of code that would request an administrator token from the UAC, which I would get now since I don't need your approval by clicking the mouse.... Even if I needed it UAC pops up on the same pixels everytime, get the drift? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>UAC is nothing but encouraging people to trust Microsoft's ability to secure their system, which they have done a less than adequate job of doing.... Who ever got the idea that XP should be completely open unless told otherwise? An MS guy, hurrah..... Only after tons and tons of admins shouting to clean up their mess they released XP SP2 to have everything closed unless told otherwise. The same guys are messing with UAC and Superfetch to mention a couple of misbreeds at MS HQ.</p><p></p><p>Maybe take a bit of time and read through articles like: <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx" target="_blank">User Account Control Step-by-Step Guide</a></p><p>The following article also uses the phrase of "leaving security intact".... woooow.... noooot:</p><p><a href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/06/dont_shut_off_v.html;jsessionid=ENOLH0AKQ5HA4QSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN" target="_blank">http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/06/dont_shut_off_v.html;jsessionid=ENOLH0AKQ5HA4QSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN</a></p><p></p><p>Your miracle application there just makes use of the "Admin Approval Mode"-setting, which keeps UAC on, but disables the popup.... But does that mean that as an Administrator user (the default in Windows) you can't install applications and disable the firewall and clear the registry and such? ... No, you can still do all of that.... The application just receives an automatic "Yes, sir" from UAC when it requests the Administrative security token, just as if you would have pushed "Ok" yourself.... There is a Windows API function where you in your application code can request that access and have administrative access to install drivers and root-hooks and such.... And once I have that "Yes, sir", you can kiss your UAC gooooooodbye ;-)</p><p></p><p>Hope this puts an end to the part about the Vista UAC and let's get on with what we do best..... I'll dig into some more code and maybe even refresh "The Old New Thing: Practical Development Throughout the Evolution of Windows" .... Read it... You may actually have a few laughs from it, if you are a bit windows-technical ;-) .... find it at: <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Old-New-Thing-Development-Throughout/dp/0321440307/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231036409&sr=8-1" target="_blank">The Old New Thing: Practical Development Throughout the Evolution of Windows: Raymond Chen: Amazon.co.uk: Books</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maedhros, post: 354090, member: 17242"] Nazgulled..... Have you ever bothered to look into things before playing Einstein? .... And yes, excuse my tone, however you already managed to turn this post into a flamewar and I am just here to greet you to the world of computer science. I am a Software Engineer, I am very well aware of what is going on at Microsoft.... Although your little UAC-trick hardens Internet Explorer and such, it is still in a sense false security.... UAC is simply put implemented the wrong way. I am not saying I have a better one up my sleeve, but I know a design-flaw when I see one.... It is just like their infamous SuperFetch service that tries to predict the future and load crap into my memory.... no thanks! .... It kills your laptop and your harddrive, and I for one just HATE the seeking noise..... again.... flawed by design. Your little TweakUAC only turns off that annoying popup.... But do really think that you are safe? .... If I had the time, I could sit down and write a piece of code that would request an administrator token from the UAC, which I would get now since I don't need your approval by clicking the mouse.... Even if I needed it UAC pops up on the same pixels everytime, get the drift? ;) UAC is nothing but encouraging people to trust Microsoft's ability to secure their system, which they have done a less than adequate job of doing.... Who ever got the idea that XP should be completely open unless told otherwise? An MS guy, hurrah..... Only after tons and tons of admins shouting to clean up their mess they released XP SP2 to have everything closed unless told otherwise. The same guys are messing with UAC and Superfetch to mention a couple of misbreeds at MS HQ. Maybe take a bit of time and read through articles like: [url=http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx]User Account Control Step-by-Step Guide[/url] The following article also uses the phrase of "leaving security intact".... woooow.... noooot: [url]http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/06/dont_shut_off_v.html;jsessionid=ENOLH0AKQ5HA4QSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN[/url] Your miracle application there just makes use of the "Admin Approval Mode"-setting, which keeps UAC on, but disables the popup.... But does that mean that as an Administrator user (the default in Windows) you can't install applications and disable the firewall and clear the registry and such? ... No, you can still do all of that.... The application just receives an automatic "Yes, sir" from UAC when it requests the Administrative security token, just as if you would have pushed "Ok" yourself.... There is a Windows API function where you in your application code can request that access and have administrative access to install drivers and root-hooks and such.... And once I have that "Yes, sir", you can kiss your UAC gooooooodbye ;-) Hope this puts an end to the part about the Vista UAC and let's get on with what we do best..... I'll dig into some more code and maybe even refresh "The Old New Thing: Practical Development Throughout the Evolution of Windows" .... Read it... You may actually have a few laughs from it, if you are a bit windows-technical ;-) .... find it at: [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Old-New-Thing-Development-Throughout/dp/0321440307/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231036409&sr=8-1]The Old New Thing: Practical Development Throughout the Evolution of Windows: Raymond Chen: Amazon.co.uk: Books[/url] [/QUOTE]
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