VS 2010 Express Q (1 Viewer)

[komita]

Hey guys, I am in the process of getting familiar with MP code so that hopefully in the future I can contribute something to this great thing we've got.

I was wondering, how much of a restriction is using VS 2010 Express instead of a older professional version of VS for Media Portal development?
I have done it in the past to start something only to find half-way in that I am limited to what I can do by the tools I;m using so I would like to start this right.

 

[Smeulf]

Hey guys, I am in the process of getting familiar with MP code so that hopefully in the future I can contribute something to this great thing we've got.

I was wondering, how much of a restriction is using VS 2010 Express instead of a older professional version of VS for Media Portal development?
I have done it in the past to start something only to find half-way in that I am limited to what I can do by the tools I;m using so I would like to start this right.

Hi Komita, and thanks for your interest into MP2 !

MP2 is a VS2010 C# project. It was converted some time ago, and the subprojects will move to .Net 4 in the next month hopefully.

So you won't be able to open MP2 solutions with and older version of Visual Studio like 2008 or older.

About Express Edition : it permit mostly to work, but there's 2 main problems in my opinion (and ther's a lot more missing features) :

- It doesn't support "Solution Folders", and makes the dev a little more difficult, to find the right projetc.

- It doesn't provide "per thread" debug, and as MP2 is a multithreading software, it's harder to solve mltithreading issues

I would recomand you to take a look on the MP2 structure into VS Pro (even a demo version) before using Express Edition, to be more familiar with the projects structure.

I hope it's up to date and I answer to your question.

Cheers.

Smeulf.

 

[komita]

Wonderful, that explains it clear as day!
I did think that a newer .Net might have crossed somebody's mind but it is good to know that it will definitely be used in MP2

thanks Smeulf!!

 

[Albert]

AW: VS 2010 Express Q

I wouldn't say we'll move to .net 4 in one month as Smeulf said, but we'll move in the next time. I already tried a move some time ago but there are still several problems in some of the projects which first need to be solved before we can move. We have a branch with my first try; there you see that it doesn't compile.
If anyone wants to help with that, please do the move and tell me what you had to do/what you have done to get it working with .net 4.

 

[Smeulf]

Re: AW: VS 2010 Express Q

I wouldn't say we'll move to .net 4 in one month as Smeulf said, but we'll move in the next time. I already tried a move some time ago but there are still several problems in some of the projects which first need to be solved before we can move. We have a branch with my first try; there you see that it doesn't compile.
If anyone wants to help with that, please do the move and tell me what you had to do/what you have done to get it working with .net 4.

Sorry, my fault, I ment to write "in the next monthS"

 

[Smeulf]

Re: AW: VS 2010 Express Q

If anyone wants to help with that, please do the move and tell me what you had to do/what you have done to get it working with .net 4.

Hi Albert,

It seems I've been able to switch all projects to .net 4 :

For the client, the steps are :

- Change all projects to .Net 4 target
- In Mediaportal.UI project, change "PresentationCore" and "WindowsBase" references to use the version 4.0.0.0
- In Mediaportal.Client, change app.config from

<startup><supportedRuntime version="v4.0" sku=".NETFramework,Version=v4.0"/></startup>

to

<startup useLegacyV2RuntimeActivationPolicy="true">
    <supportedRuntime version="v4.0" sku=".NETFramework,Version=v4.0"/>
</startup>

This last step is needed because VideoPlayers uses old 2.x assemblies as reference, like DirectShowLib-2005 and SlimDX, and we have to tell the application it's allowed to load an another version of the CLR (V2 in this case). More informations : <startup> Element

For the Serveur part :

- Change all projects to .Net 4 target
- In Mediaportal.Backend project, change "WindowsBase" reference to use the version 4.0.0.0

There's just a warning when building about

protected AsynchronousMessageQueue _messageQueue;

in Mediaportal.Server project, MainForm.cs, witch is not CLS consistent. Seems the field should be private insted of protected...

I think it requiries more tests, but at least, now it builds, and starts properly. I did not checked the all application, but I can play a video from the server (attached on the same machine) and I don't have any error in the log.

Btw, I think we may consider using SlimDX for .Net4 instead of the .Net2 version.

Cheers.

Smeulf.

 

[komita]

Good job on the .net 4 compile Smeulf!

About the MP 2.0 release ... how accurate is the 2016 timeline? I mean with the end of the world coming in 2012
Just curious

 

[Smeulf]

Good job on the .net 4 compile Smeulf!

About the MP 2.0 release ... how accurate is the 2016 timeline? I mean with the end of the world coming in 2012
Just curious

See here https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...most-alpha-state-99745/index2.html#post781299

 

[komita]

Aha!

Thanks!