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<blockquote data-quote="infinite.loop" data-source="post: 179977" data-attributes="member: 10723"><p>again, please do not mix-up svn changes in TV-Server and MediaPortal svn. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>yes there were new features added to MP svn during the freeze.</p><p>but again, read the svn log and compare the amount of fixes with new features.</p><p></p><p>some new features were added because they were on our internal wishlist for a looooong time, and then a developer suddenly poped up with a working solution. so it was added.</p><p></p><p>the only new feature which realy caused issues were the new skinengine features (which have been reverted).</p><p></p><p>sure, it would be "perfect" if no new feature would slip into svn during a freeze, but this is an opensource project, and this means that some things are different and have to be handlet differently.</p><p></p><p>means, you can not just revert svn if a new feature was added and then go and smack that developer against the wall.</p><p>that doesnt work. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>we realy do our best, but we can always need helping hands <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>we would have many ideas about a simplified setup / wizard. but we simply do not have the manpower (yet).</p><p></p><p>again, every helping hand is highly appreciated <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>note:</strong> MP is not mainly about directshow and directX. its is a .net framework (visual c#) application <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>i agree on the "trying to please virtualy everyone".</p><p>if it would be me, then we would have way less integrated plugins in MP.</p><p></p><p>SF patches: those are very nice, but most of the time they are build on outaded svn revisions, simply do not work, or do not fit into the project. sorting out those takes much time (i am sure that you understand that <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ). and again, we are a quite small team where the team members allready have their "tasks" to do. so there is very less time to check SF-patches. sometimes this means that some good stuff is lost.... thats sad, but cant be avoided <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>and opensource is different. why? because you do not get payed for what you do here.</p><p>so what you do has to be "fun" (or would i have 3000+ forum posts if i wouldnt like to contribute? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p>you can not run an opensource project like a commercial one. be that strict and your team members will dissapear in an instand.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">------------------------------------</span></strong></p><p></p><p>if you want to switch to MCE, then i wont try to convince you to stick with MediaPortal. its your decision <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>if it is the better working solution for you then you should use it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong>but one thing i want that everyone is aware about.</strong></p> <p style="text-align: center">we know how we could do some things better. and we know what we are doing wrong.</p> <p style="text-align: center">but the major amount of "problems" is caused by one thing -> manpower</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">there is a very good reason why we call for help very frequently <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Designers, developers, testers out there listen up!</p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: Red"><strong>we need you!</strong></span> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="infinite.loop, post: 179977, member: 10723"] again, please do not mix-up svn changes in TV-Server and MediaPortal svn. :) yes there were new features added to MP svn during the freeze. but again, read the svn log and compare the amount of fixes with new features. some new features were added because they were on our internal wishlist for a looooong time, and then a developer suddenly poped up with a working solution. so it was added. the only new feature which realy caused issues were the new skinengine features (which have been reverted). sure, it would be "perfect" if no new feature would slip into svn during a freeze, but this is an opensource project, and this means that some things are different and have to be handlet differently. means, you can not just revert svn if a new feature was added and then go and smack that developer against the wall. that doesnt work. :) we realy do our best, but we can always need helping hands ;) we would have many ideas about a simplified setup / wizard. but we simply do not have the manpower (yet). again, every helping hand is highly appreciated :) [B]note:[/B] MP is not mainly about directshow and directX. its is a .net framework (visual c#) application ;) i agree on the "trying to please virtualy everyone". if it would be me, then we would have way less integrated plugins in MP. SF patches: those are very nice, but most of the time they are build on outaded svn revisions, simply do not work, or do not fit into the project. sorting out those takes much time (i am sure that you understand that :) ). and again, we are a quite small team where the team members allready have their "tasks" to do. so there is very less time to check SF-patches. sometimes this means that some good stuff is lost.... thats sad, but cant be avoided :( and opensource is different. why? because you do not get payed for what you do here. so what you do has to be "fun" (or would i have 3000+ forum posts if i wouldnt like to contribute? ;) ) you can not run an opensource project like a commercial one. be that strict and your team members will dissapear in an instand. [CENTER][B][SIZE="5"]------------------------------------[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER] if you want to switch to MCE, then i wont try to convince you to stick with MediaPortal. its your decision :) if it is the better working solution for you then you should use it. [CENTER][B]but one thing i want that everyone is aware about.[/B] we know how we could do some things better. and we know what we are doing wrong. but the major amount of "problems" is caused by one thing -> manpower there is a very good reason why we call for help very frequently ;) Designers, developers, testers out there listen up! [COLOR="Red"][B]we need you![/B][/COLOR] :) [/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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