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Intresting...

This is really VERY intresting... I'm talking about opensource and Cybermand manage to change subject to tapwater :D

Oh well, anyway... My point was (even I was little misleading here) that I appreciate opensource BUT...

I understand that opensource can be good thing but I also know that it can ruin whole software industry!

I didn't say that opensource is ultimate evil but it could cause serious problems to many people working in software industry.

BTW, as promising this software looks I'm not currently using it so I really don't think that I'm stealing anything. At least not yet :D

PS."Communism is dead ideology..."
 
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deriox - I always prefer to introduce confusion by using semi-appropriate analogies. :twisted:

It's a tough subject. I guess my final comment would be that although open source or free software might impact the sales of commercial software there is absolutely no way that such development can be restricted. It's almost a free speech issue. How could you or any regulatory body justify telling some guy in his basement not to write a cool little program just because it's an alternative ( not a replacement! ) for some commercial software.

If the software is original and the content publicly available then how is that developer in the wrong just because somebody else is charging for almost the same program?

As much as I hate to say it ( and I really, really do ) Walmart has every right to sell stuff cheaper than the mom and pop store(s) that used to stand where it's parking lot now exists. Either you vote against Walmart by not buying stuff there or you kowtow to them and accept the fact that your neighbour will be out of work because his corner store is no longer competitive.

Sorry - another analogy. Well, you get what I mean. There's just no rationale for telling somebody they can't compete with a big corporation. Unless you're Apple of course, and then you own the entire universe. It pisses me off that the guys who made the pPod iPod emulator for PocketPC didn't simply start giving it away when Apple put the screws to them. Boneheads.
 
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about free softwares....

"Just to remember some things about freewares...

Some compagnies ... like girder, myhtpc ... have made an excellent work with they softwares but there's one thing who is un-acceptable:

When this soft is free, a lot of developpers give a lot of they time to code plugins, to make translations etc... for free. Some user even send money...

when all this work is done we have:

"Thanks guys for your work, we are selling it now... :evil: "

there's a long list of compagies who do that, imagine now that winamp or foobar beginning to sell those software? ... no ... a basic engine with a ton of free plugins.

to avoid this, the only solution is licences like GPL !!!

It's becoming the same revolution that comes with the invention of printing works and books, the knowledge has been made accessible to everyone, now it's similar with the softwares

Seb
who promise to send money once his paypal account will work :wink:
and sorry for my poor, very poor english :roll:
 
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Support GPL projects like MP and donate some money (Yes, I did donate). Help out, why not go there now and donate some :)
 

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I nmy opinion the essential thing is said: Open Source software is mostly better than commercial software. On my HTPC the old myHTPC and MP is running. I didn´t find any commercial software that was better. If an industrie can´t code a better one, they must develop anything else. ;)
 
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Here is my 2 cents

If an opensource project puts a company out of business, it is there fault for not being competitive. Look around.

Firefox, Linux, MediaPortal, Xbox Media Center.

All of these programs are so far ahead of their corporate counterparts. Firefox is barely on it's 1.0 release, and IE is on it's 6.0 release. I think you'd have trouble finding many people who would stand behind IE when offered Firefox instead. Look at XBMC. Back when it was XBMP, toms hardware reviewed it (LINK TO ARTICLE) and basically said it was better than anything else out there. I think it still is.

And if you want to see companies who are competitive, look at Adobe. They create software that delivers.

Opensource drives companies to make better products, and if it puts some of those companies out of business, so be it. It's there fault in the first place for not creating a solid product. I'm just fed up with corperate products and software that apparently never considered the user when it was being created.
 
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My 2c (in defence of Meedio):

I have to say that I spent a lot of time tracking development of Meedio and in my opinion, they are very competitive, I guess they are more suited for my purposes than MP.

There are three reasons I am trying to switch to MP - one is that I like open source in general, second, I like to be able to recompile my own builds and play with things, and third - I cannot get Meedio to display Unicode (waiting for months) whilst I got MP working with Unicode in 4 hours by making some patches and recompiling it. (I guess it is a derivative of the first two reasons)

But, for a regular Joe User, who does not know C#, who does not care about non-latin languages and who has no idea that TV channels have frequences, Meedio is better. Especially since Meedio is not that resource-hungry as MP (I am doubling the memory and ugrading my video card to play with MP - more than twice the price of Meedio). Meedio is more stable, sets up easier (in US - their target market) and it has a lot of plugins to meet various user needs.

By the way, everyone who contributed to myHTPC/Meedio in some way, either by writing some pluings, docs or beta testing, got their Meedio licenses for free, which is fair in a way. And they are just 3 developers and a couple of management guys, not a big company at all.

I am just trying to say that MP is not killing the industry, no way. May be in a year, but then "proprietory" guys will have secured agreements with OEMs and will have another source of revenue or something like it.

Disclaimer: I do not work for M$, Enron, Meedio, <insert your favorite evil company here>, I work for a small startup trying to make its way in a completely different industry, and we use (and contribute to) open-source extensively.
 
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vbich said:
But, for a regular Joe User, who does not know C#, who does not care about non-latin languages and who has no idea that TV channels have frequences, Meedio is better. Especially since Meedio is not that resource-hungry as MP (I am doubling the memory and ugrading my video card to play with MP - more than twice the price of Meedio). Meedio is more stable, sets up easier (in US - their target market) and it has a lot of plugins to meet various user needs.

I agree, meedio is for people who want it simple and don't care if it looks and feels boring. I am no fan of Meedio and IF I where to select an HTPC solution that I where to pay for meedia would not make it on to my charter. MCE 2005 is a much better choice for the avarage HTPC user who just want to use it. Concidering all the time that has been put in to making meedio vs. the ONE progammer that has done most of the work for MP (frodo) I am not impressed at all. This community will grow fast and more ppl will come. Give it some more time and this application will be the number one choise.
 

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    lets not get into a "who is better" discussion ok?
    A program fits some people personal needs.
    And as this is personal it's not debatable.

    Frodo started this out because there simply was not software fitting his needs. And as I agreed helped him out from the start.

    This by no means means other software sucks and we are better.
    Mp is better for ME, but can be totally different for someone else.
     
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    MrMario64 said:
    lets not get into a "who is better" discussion ok?
    A program fits some people personal needs.
    And as this is personal it's not debatable.

    Frodo started this out because there simply was not software fitting his needs. And as I agreed helped him out from the start.

    This by no means means other software sucks and we are better.
    Mp is better for ME, but can be totally different for someone else.

    Sorry, it was not my intention. I was just trying to say that MP is far from killing commercial software in the industry with some facts on hands.
     

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