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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Boilermaker" data-source="post: 40941" data-attributes="member: 10306">welcome...mofux caught the obvious that i didn't....Using reference.xml well saves time in the long run, but you can still define position (or any tag) in individual xml files also.   For example, if you have a listcontrol you want in a different spot on just one page, then using posX and posY on that page overrides the values you used in references.xml</blockquote>