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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jameson_uk" data-source="post: 366280" data-attributes="member: 11220">Thanks anyway.  Looks like it has resolved itself.  I tried manually refreshing the EPG via the TV Server config app but did not make any difference to 4TR.  Wanted to avoid xmltv as was always a pain in the rear from many years ago and I have still not been able to let go of that ....Someone everything is there now.  It appears that 4TR has a mechanism to update the EPG with new stuff coming in at the end every hour and then refresh the whole thing every 24 hours (default).  I am guessing this is what the options in the config mean.  Either way I now have a full EPG so on to the next questions....</blockquote>