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<blockquote data-quote="ivars" data-source="post: 170302" data-attributes="member: 25892">ICE TV ices Nine in court.From <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au" target="_blank">www.crikey.com.au</a>:&quot;The Nine Network (AKA The Titanic) has had another loss. Its attempts to monster Sydney based ICE TV over the latter's construction of an electronic program guide, have failed. In the Federal Court today Justice Annabelle Bennett ruled against Nine. Nine had accused ICE TV of breaching copyright by reproducing its TV schedules in electronic form. It claimed a further infringement because people can use digital recorders to make copies of TV programs. ICE TV disputed the claims. It says it puts together its program guide from publicly available information, writes its own program descriptions. ICE TV says it makes the software so people can record television programs, but says it's not responsible for people using PCs or digital recorders to make copies or skip the ads and that's the real issue. Today, in Sydney, Justice Annabelle Bennett agreed that Nine owned the copyright to its program guide but dismissed Nine's claim on the basis that ICE TV &quot;does not reproduce a substantial part of&quot; Nine's guide. She agreed with ICE TV that its EPG was compiled independently and ordered Nine to pay ICE TV's costs. That's another little financial headache the old Nine owners, the Packers, have handed the new owners, CVC. The irony is that Nine is now part of the TV industry’s FTA electronic program guide, which will allow anyone to access and record programs. The only proviso is that the DVR/PVR makers must (as FTA Australia says) comply with &quot;base-level requirements designed to protect copyright, protect the integrity of the program information and facilitate collection of ratings information&quot;. That will force manufacturers to alter their machines for the Australian market and leave owners of current DVR/PVRs which don't meet these requirements, out in the cold.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ivars, post: 170302, member: 25892"] [b]ICE TV ices Nine in court.[/b] From [url]www.crikey.com.au[/url]: "The Nine Network (AKA The Titanic) has had another loss. Its attempts to monster Sydney based ICE TV over the latter's construction of an electronic program guide, have failed. In the Federal Court today Justice Annabelle Bennett ruled against Nine. Nine had accused ICE TV of breaching copyright by reproducing its TV schedules in electronic form. It claimed a further infringement because people can use digital recorders to make copies of TV programs. ICE TV disputed the claims. It says it puts together its program guide from publicly available information, writes its own program descriptions. ICE TV says it makes the software so people can record television programs, but says it's not responsible for people using PCs or digital recorders to make copies or skip the ads and that's the real issue. Today, in Sydney, Justice Annabelle Bennett agreed that Nine owned the copyright to its program guide but dismissed Nine's claim on the basis that ICE TV "does not reproduce a substantial part of" Nine's guide. She agreed with ICE TV that its EPG was compiled independently and ordered Nine to pay ICE TV's costs. That's another little financial headache the old Nine owners, the Packers, have handed the new owners, CVC. The irony is that Nine is now part of the TV industry’s FTA electronic program guide, which will allow anyone to access and record programs. The only proviso is that the DVR/PVR makers must (as FTA Australia says) comply with "base-level requirements designed to protect copyright, protect the integrity of the program information and facilitate collection of ratings information". That will force manufacturers to alter their machines for the Australian market and leave owners of current DVR/PVRs which don't meet these requirements, out in the cold." [/QUOTE]

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