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<blockquote data-quote="and-81" data-source="post: 84577" data-attributes="member: 11844"><p><strong>Warning: Rant ahead.</strong></p><p></p><p>That's only one of the reasons I hate Australian TV Broadcasters. Don't get me wrong, it's a big one, but here are some others ...</p><p></p><p><Rant></p><p></p><p> - They banish good shows to ridiculous times because they know we will watch them anyway. The Sopranos at midnight? Really.</p><p></p><p> - They're flooding us with cheap "Top 20 this and that" style shows. How many 20-to-1's can they make? I really don't care what some air head presenter thinks of Donald Trump's hair style. Which brings me to... "Big Questions" ? Come on channel 9, we're not stupid. We don't like Jules Lund, stop ramming him down our throats. He was voted off that terrible ice skating show and you brought him back! "By popular demand", who's demand!? The demand was to get him off the show. We're sick of your profile building rubbish, and we're not buying in.</p><p></p><p> - Cost cutting at Nine in particular is spawning a series of on-the-cheap shows that really do look on-the-cheap. Archival footage shows are getting pretty lame guys, and another re-voiced UK documentary is not going to cut it.</p><p></p><p> - They refuse to start shows on time or finish within their time slots. This doesn't just annoy the recorder, it also enrages the everyday viewer, see if they put up with it much longer ...</p><p></p><p> - Time slots no longer start and stop on 30 minute intervals. Starts 9:35pm, what kind of a time is 9:35pm !? If you're going to specify your start time to 5 minutes, be accurate! If I said I arrived for work at 9:35am you would think I was being specific about the time. When a TV station says it will start a show at 9:35pm you'd think the same, but you'd be wrong!</p><p></p><p> - They continually slip in repeat episodes of high rating shows to string out the season. The sooner I can filter my EPG to not record repeats of CSI the better. What they did with Frasier was criminal. Thank god I didn't like Friends when that was finishing up, I would have come over all "stabby"</p><p></p><p> - News is meant to be current, if you're advertising stories that will be on next week then IT'S NOT NEWS, IT'S CURRENT AFFAIRS. And all your "Exclusives" that everyone else had, how is that exclusive? What's more, why do I care if you've got an exclusive on the cat behind the brick wall story?</p><p></p><p> - A Current Affair / Today Tonight. They ran out of stories 5 years ago, and have just been repeating the same old scare tactics, racism and filth since. The Racism propogated in these shows is criminal. Seriously, Criminal. I don't believe Australia is a racist nation, I do believe that our Media is following a US style State Of Fear approach which features doom and gloom, end of the world, and xenophobic rubbish. We are living in the height of our civilization, we have the longest life expectancy we've ever had, we have decreasing crime rates, and ever improving quality of life. But our Media tells us that we're all at risk of being murdered by some ethnic or religious minority group every time we walk out our front door. It's truly insulting.</p><p></p><p> - Late night game shows. Every commercial network now runs this utter garbage! Pathetic, really pathetic guys. Is this the best we can do?</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to campaign for a boycott of Australian free to air tv, but I will record all the shows I like, watch them at the time that suits me and skip the ads. And I will buy the DVDs of good shows from the US or UK and never watch them on free to air. And I will keep an eye on the guide for good shows on the ABC and SBS and try to watch those stations more.</p><p></p><p>Sooner or later the advertisers will realise that these antics are hurting them, not the broadcasters. When they do, hopefully they will use there influence to pull the broadcasters back in line. And if they think going after IceTV will stop us they are truly inept. The HTPC user is, by and large, intelligent and resourceful. We will find a way.</p><p></p><p>The free-to-air TV broadcasters in Australia can go to hell for all I care, if they continue to treat us like idiots they will be the ones who suffer in the end as more and more people move to recording their shows with DVD-Rs, PVRs and HTPCs, and downloading shows from the internet. Advertisers will pull their money out of TV and pour it into online marketing, radio and print media.</p><p></p><p>This non-ratings season in Australia is set to be the worst ever.</p><p></p><p>If I didn't like Cricket I'd probably shoot myself.</p><p></p><p>If I started telling everyone that calling me by my first name without paying me for it was a breach of my copyright could I sue them?</p><p></p><p>Channel Nine seems to think that the name and time a show is meant to start is copyright. Let's hope that sanity wins the day.</p><p></p><p></Rant></p><p></p><p>Sorry for the long post, just needed to get it off my chest. It's a sad state of affairs. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Keep us posted on the IceTV story, it's gunna have a big impact on the HTPC scene here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="and-81, post: 84577, member: 11844"] [b]Warning: Rant ahead.[/b] That's only one of the reasons I hate Australian TV Broadcasters. Don't get me wrong, it's a big one, but here are some others ... <Rant> - They banish good shows to ridiculous times because they know we will watch them anyway. The Sopranos at midnight? Really. - They're flooding us with cheap "Top 20 this and that" style shows. How many 20-to-1's can they make? I really don't care what some air head presenter thinks of Donald Trump's hair style. Which brings me to... "Big Questions" ? Come on channel 9, we're not stupid. We don't like Jules Lund, stop ramming him down our throats. He was voted off that terrible ice skating show and you brought him back! "By popular demand", who's demand!? The demand was to get him off the show. We're sick of your profile building rubbish, and we're not buying in. - Cost cutting at Nine in particular is spawning a series of on-the-cheap shows that really do look on-the-cheap. Archival footage shows are getting pretty lame guys, and another re-voiced UK documentary is not going to cut it. - They refuse to start shows on time or finish within their time slots. This doesn't just annoy the recorder, it also enrages the everyday viewer, see if they put up with it much longer ... - Time slots no longer start and stop on 30 minute intervals. Starts 9:35pm, what kind of a time is 9:35pm !? If you're going to specify your start time to 5 minutes, be accurate! If I said I arrived for work at 9:35am you would think I was being specific about the time. When a TV station says it will start a show at 9:35pm you'd think the same, but you'd be wrong! - They continually slip in repeat episodes of high rating shows to string out the season. The sooner I can filter my EPG to not record repeats of CSI the better. What they did with Frasier was criminal. Thank god I didn't like Friends when that was finishing up, I would have come over all "stabby" - News is meant to be current, if you're advertising stories that will be on next week then IT'S NOT NEWS, IT'S CURRENT AFFAIRS. And all your "Exclusives" that everyone else had, how is that exclusive? What's more, why do I care if you've got an exclusive on the cat behind the brick wall story? - A Current Affair / Today Tonight. They ran out of stories 5 years ago, and have just been repeating the same old scare tactics, racism and filth since. The Racism propogated in these shows is criminal. Seriously, Criminal. I don't believe Australia is a racist nation, I do believe that our Media is following a US style State Of Fear approach which features doom and gloom, end of the world, and xenophobic rubbish. We are living in the height of our civilization, we have the longest life expectancy we've ever had, we have decreasing crime rates, and ever improving quality of life. But our Media tells us that we're all at risk of being murdered by some ethnic or religious minority group every time we walk out our front door. It's truly insulting. - Late night game shows. Every commercial network now runs this utter garbage! Pathetic, really pathetic guys. Is this the best we can do? I'm not going to campaign for a boycott of Australian free to air tv, but I will record all the shows I like, watch them at the time that suits me and skip the ads. And I will buy the DVDs of good shows from the US or UK and never watch them on free to air. And I will keep an eye on the guide for good shows on the ABC and SBS and try to watch those stations more. Sooner or later the advertisers will realise that these antics are hurting them, not the broadcasters. When they do, hopefully they will use there influence to pull the broadcasters back in line. And if they think going after IceTV will stop us they are truly inept. The HTPC user is, by and large, intelligent and resourceful. We will find a way. The free-to-air TV broadcasters in Australia can go to hell for all I care, if they continue to treat us like idiots they will be the ones who suffer in the end as more and more people move to recording their shows with DVD-Rs, PVRs and HTPCs, and downloading shows from the internet. Advertisers will pull their money out of TV and pour it into online marketing, radio and print media. This non-ratings season in Australia is set to be the worst ever. If I didn't like Cricket I'd probably shoot myself. If I started telling everyone that calling me by my first name without paying me for it was a breach of my copyright could I sue them? Channel Nine seems to think that the name and time a show is meant to start is copyright. Let's hope that sanity wins the day. </Rant> Sorry for the long post, just needed to get it off my chest. It's a sad state of affairs. :( Keep us posted on the IceTV story, it's gunna have a big impact on the HTPC scene here. [/QUOTE]
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