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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 922712" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Mate - I'm trying to help but it seems in your frustration that you're trying to provoke me (?).</p><p>I have analog tuners that require software encoders. The advice I'm trying to offer is based on years of experience and frustration with them. Trust me - it is complex. I'm not going to explain all the issues to you because at the end of the day it sounds like you just want your hardware to work and you probably don't care how. At least please have the respect to take me at my word, or alternatively I'm happy to let you figure it out yourself.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>To what internal issue are you referring?</p><p>I'm not trying to blame manufacturers. It is a fact that they change names and interfaces as mentioned.</p><p>They do this because part of the way they earn money is to license their encoders to 3rd parties such as tuner vendors.</p><p>For example, Hauppauge redistribute Mainconcept.</p><p>TerraTec, TechnoTrend and Twinhan use Cyberlink.</p><p>etc. etc. etc.</p><p>When they do that, the encoder vendors change names and customise various things.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Okay. Let me ask you a question.</p><p>Do you understand that those lists represent the encoders that have been found to be compatible with TV Server over years of testing?</p><p>That being the case, the usual approach is to install an encoder [via installing software that contains said encoder] that is in that list rather than try to add items to those lists.</p><p>I could explain how to add items but it is not exactly straightforward unless you're familiar with databases (SQL) and DirectShow. That is part of the complexity I was referring to.</p><p>In order to try and avoid taking half an hour or more to do that, I asked you what software you have installed in an attempt to get a compatible encoder.</p><p>In return you seem to have ignored my questions and taken your frustration out on me.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I'm trying very hard not to be offended.</p><p>Not at your opinion of TV Server but rather that you assume I like to blame and make excuses, which to me implies that you think I don't know what I'm talking about.</p><p>If you don't like TV Server you're free to use any other software that you like.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Please answer my previous question: what software have you installed?</p><p>Alternatively, what encoders do you have installed that you think TV Server should be recognising?</p><p> </p><p></p><p>As mentioned above, at this point I'm trying to avoid explaining that as (1) it is quite time consuming and (2) the chances of this being helpful are not clear to me at this point. I would like to clarify that it is absolutely necessary before doing that.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes, that doesn't surprise me.</p><p>Microsoft distribute encoders with W7.</p><p>Unfortunately they are not compatible with MP. We've tested and confirmed this.</p><p> </p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 922712, member: 82144"] Mate - I'm trying to help but it seems in your frustration that you're trying to provoke me (?). I have analog tuners that require software encoders. The advice I'm trying to offer is based on years of experience and frustration with them. Trust me - it is complex. I'm not going to explain all the issues to you because at the end of the day it sounds like you just want your hardware to work and you probably don't care how. At least please have the respect to take me at my word, or alternatively I'm happy to let you figure it out yourself. To what internal issue are you referring? I'm not trying to blame manufacturers. It is a fact that they change names and interfaces as mentioned. They do this because part of the way they earn money is to license their encoders to 3rd parties such as tuner vendors. For example, Hauppauge redistribute Mainconcept. TerraTec, TechnoTrend and Twinhan use Cyberlink. etc. etc. etc. When they do that, the encoder vendors change names and customise various things. Okay. Let me ask you a question. Do you understand that those lists represent the encoders that have been found to be compatible with TV Server over years of testing? That being the case, the usual approach is to install an encoder [via installing software that contains said encoder] that is in that list rather than try to add items to those lists. I could explain how to add items but it is not exactly straightforward unless you're familiar with databases (SQL) and DirectShow. That is part of the complexity I was referring to. In order to try and avoid taking half an hour or more to do that, I asked you what software you have installed in an attempt to get a compatible encoder. In return you seem to have ignored my questions and taken your frustration out on me. I'm trying very hard not to be offended. Not at your opinion of TV Server but rather that you assume I like to blame and make excuses, which to me implies that you think I don't know what I'm talking about. If you don't like TV Server you're free to use any other software that you like. Please answer my previous question: what software have you installed? Alternatively, what encoders do you have installed that you think TV Server should be recognising? As mentioned above, at this point I'm trying to avoid explaining that as (1) it is quite time consuming and (2) the chances of this being helpful are not clear to me at this point. I would like to clarify that it is absolutely necessary before doing that. Yes, that doesn't surprise me. Microsoft distribute encoders with W7. Unfortunately they are not compatible with MP. We've tested and confirmed this. mm [/QUOTE]
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