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<blockquote data-quote="CyberSimian" data-source="post: 1243626" data-attributes="member: 141969">I have never used satellite TV, so I cannot speak from personal experience.&nbsp; But the screen shots that you have shown look correct to me -- that is how I understand the EPG grabbing should be defined for satellite.&nbsp; Some points:(1) For the &quot;EPG grabbing while idle&quot; setting, the &quot;Timeout&quot; is set to &quot;10 minutes&quot;.&nbsp; This is the period of time for which TV Server will grab the EPG.&nbsp; With terrestrial TV in the UK, 10 minutes is about right to grab a complete EPG (all channels for 7 days).&nbsp; But it does vary.&nbsp; Sometimes the EPG is complete after less than 10 minutes, while at other times the EPG is still incomplete after 10 minutes.I don't know how long it takes on average to grab a complete EPG for satellite.&nbsp; So you could try increasing the timeout value to something larger -- 20 to 30 minutes perhaps.(2) The &quot;Freesat Info&quot; radio channel provides info only for Freesat channels (TV and radio).&nbsp; I believe that on satellite there are other channels that you can receive that are not part of Freesat.&nbsp; If you watch any of those, there won't be any info for them in the Freesat EPG.&nbsp; So you would need to obtain an EPG for those from a different source.(3) If &quot;Channel 4 HD&quot; is no longer part of Freesat, how do you receive it?&nbsp; Is it still broadcast from satellite?(4) Do you receive any part of the Freesat EPG, or does it remain completely empty if you don't use XmlTv?(5) If XmlTv works for you, there is no reason to stop using it unless there is some disadvantage associated with it (e.g. less-detailed info, the need to connect to the internet, it costs real money, ...).-- from CyberSimian in the UK</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CyberSimian, post: 1243626, member: 141969"] I have never used satellite TV, so I cannot speak from personal experience. But the screen shots that you have shown look correct to me -- that is how I understand the EPG grabbing should be defined for satellite. Some points: (1) For the "EPG grabbing while idle" setting, the "Timeout" is set to "10 minutes". This is the period of time for which TV Server will grab the EPG. With terrestrial TV in the UK, 10 minutes is about right to grab a complete EPG (all channels for 7 days). But it does vary. Sometimes the EPG is complete after less than 10 minutes, while at other times the EPG is still incomplete after 10 minutes. I don't know how long it takes on average to grab a complete EPG for satellite. So you could try increasing the timeout value to something larger -- 20 to 30 minutes perhaps. (2) The "Freesat Info" radio channel provides info only for Freesat channels (TV and radio). I believe that on satellite there are other channels that you can receive that are not part of Freesat. If you watch any of those, there won't be any info for them in the Freesat EPG. So you would need to obtain an EPG for those from a different source. (3) If "Channel 4 HD" is no longer part of Freesat, how do you receive it? Is it still broadcast from satellite? (4) Do you receive any part of the Freesat EPG, or does it remain completely empty if you don't use XmlTv? (5) If XmlTv works for you, there is no reason to stop using it unless there is some disadvantage associated with it (e.g. less-detailed info, the need to connect to the internet, it costs real money, ...). -- from CyberSimian in the UK [/QUOTE]

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