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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1107371" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Yes definitely, because these two points are not possible at the same time:</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you combine the two channels then the same EPG grabbing and mapping configuration applies for all tuning details. You can't have one configuration for one tuning detail and a different configuration for another tuning detail.</p><p></p><p>I have strong opinions about the channel configuration - grouping, combining, mapping etc. - in TV Server configuration, and unfortunately they're mostly negative. This EPG-only mapping option is a good example. I have always thought that option is utterly pointless, as I can't think of a single use case where it makes sense to use it.</p><p></p><p>This subject sort of came up a couple of times in the past year or so when I've talked about removing and/or seriously reworking the mapping and EPG grabbing sections. IMHO the way those sections work at the moment (at the channel level) means that you usually can't combine channels. That has always bothered me, because in the past I had HD DVB-T sources with no EPG and SD DVB-S sources with full EPG. There was no way for me to combine and force DVB-S to only be used for EPG grabbing.</p><p></p><p>In my local TVE 3.5 branch I have made some changes already...</p><p></p><p>My personal opinion is that the channel mapping section should eventually be removed completely (unnecessary complexity!)... or at least changed to work at the service (tuning detail) level or at the transmitter/transponder level. On several occasions I've been very tempted to hit that delete button but [USER=106003]@FreakyJ[/USER] 's support for keeping it has always held me back. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>For now it stays... with some changes. Mapping is now automatic. In other words, when you scan the new channels are automatically mapped to all tuners that can tune the channel type... and if you add a new tuner, all existing channels that match the tuner type are automatically mapped to it. I've also removed the EPG-only option. </p><p>The old combinations section which I always hated ("why can't I merge two channels of the same type?!?", "Ooops, I combined channels by mistake; how can I undo it?!?") is completely gone. To combine or split channels now: just search for the channels you want to combine/split in the TV or radio channels section, select them, and click the merge or split button. Sorting by channel name (to make all the similarly named channels be listed together) should make the process reasonable even if you have many channels... and the search box also supports a search syntax so you can [for example] show only channels from certain providers.</p><p></p><p>Also on the subject of channel combinations: very soon it will be possible to edit multiple channels at the same time, and drag and drop tuning details between them. It is already possible to prioritise tuning details (so you can prioritise HD or 3D independent of tuner priority).</p><p></p><p>I haven't yet touched the DVB EPG section, but at some point it will get the works. Possibly it may be changed to work at the service (tuning detail) level or at the transmitter/transponder level... or maybe I will simply add a "grab EPG" option at the tuning detail level. I'll see when I get there...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1107371, member: 82144"] Yes definitely, because these two points are not possible at the same time: If you combine the two channels then the same EPG grabbing and mapping configuration applies for all tuning details. You can't have one configuration for one tuning detail and a different configuration for another tuning detail. I have strong opinions about the channel configuration - grouping, combining, mapping etc. - in TV Server configuration, and unfortunately they're mostly negative. This EPG-only mapping option is a good example. I have always thought that option is utterly pointless, as I can't think of a single use case where it makes sense to use it. This subject sort of came up a couple of times in the past year or so when I've talked about removing and/or seriously reworking the mapping and EPG grabbing sections. IMHO the way those sections work at the moment (at the channel level) means that you usually can't combine channels. That has always bothered me, because in the past I had HD DVB-T sources with no EPG and SD DVB-S sources with full EPG. There was no way for me to combine and force DVB-S to only be used for EPG grabbing. In my local TVE 3.5 branch I have made some changes already... My personal opinion is that the channel mapping section should eventually be removed completely (unnecessary complexity!)... or at least changed to work at the service (tuning detail) level or at the transmitter/transponder level. On several occasions I've been very tempted to hit that delete button but [USER=106003]@FreakyJ[/USER] 's support for keeping it has always held me back. ;) For now it stays... with some changes. Mapping is now automatic. In other words, when you scan the new channels are automatically mapped to all tuners that can tune the channel type... and if you add a new tuner, all existing channels that match the tuner type are automatically mapped to it. I've also removed the EPG-only option. The old combinations section which I always hated ("why can't I merge two channels of the same type?!?", "Ooops, I combined channels by mistake; how can I undo it?!?") is completely gone. To combine or split channels now: just search for the channels you want to combine/split in the TV or radio channels section, select them, and click the merge or split button. Sorting by channel name (to make all the similarly named channels be listed together) should make the process reasonable even if you have many channels... and the search box also supports a search syntax so you can [for example] show only channels from certain providers. Also on the subject of channel combinations: very soon it will be possible to edit multiple channels at the same time, and drag and drop tuning details between them. It is already possible to prioritise tuning details (so you can prioritise HD or 3D independent of tuner priority). I haven't yet touched the DVB EPG section, but at some point it will get the works. Possibly it may be changed to work at the service (tuning detail) level or at the transmitter/transponder level... or maybe I will simply add a "grab EPG" option at the tuning detail level. I'll see when I get there... [/QUOTE]
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