FireDTV / FloppyDTV + Sky Digital (1 Viewer)

Teaboy

Portal Member
January 31, 2005
25
0
I want to view Sky Digital on my HTPC, and I'm moving home and won't be taking my Sky box with me. Even if I was - I'm not entirely happy with the buffer delay of the MPEG cards which makes channel browsing very tedious.

I'm basically wondering if anyone has successfully received all channels (Free to air, Sky Movies, Sky Sports, Sky Box Office) with a FireDTV and/or FloppyDTV.

If so, what hardware is needed? I keep hearing about a Dragon Cam (?)

Will this setup support HDTV? Sky will be broadcasting in HD soon!

I know there are hundreds of threads all asking similar questions but I can't find someone who has actually got it working.

Your comments are apprieciated! :D
 

hoppy

Portal Pro
March 10, 2006
65
0
Cambridge, UK
Hi Teaboy,

Beter late than never I hope!

I've got it working, using a fireDTV DVB-S and a dragon cam. I can recieve all the channels I've tried to recieve so far, which is pretty much the whole of the basic package. I don't have movies or sports, so I can't comment on those, but if the dragon cam seems to work, I don't see any reason why it won't be able to decode them.

The only real problem I have found so far is that you have to put you sky card back in your sky box about once every two months. I think it somehow "pings" the sky card to continue working. Without a two monthly ping, the card simply stops working, but can be fixed by leaving it in your sky box for a little while. This will probably be a big draw back for you as, by the sound of it, you won't have a sky box!

If you get your dragon cam from here:

http://www.firedtv.co.uk/

they will pre-load the loader card with the preditor firmware so you don't need a card reader/loader.

Technically, this set up should be HD compatible, but I don't know if it works as I don't have a SkyHD subscription. The beeb are starting trials next month on Astra, so I'll test that out an let you know.
 

Teaboy

Portal Member
January 31, 2005
25
0
Thanks for the reply :D

I've actually moved in already, and I just got a new sky box instead. But I'm still very interested in this set up.

Have you managed to get the box office channels working?

I'm very tempted to order one now... :lol:
 

hoppy

Portal Pro
March 10, 2006
65
0
Cambridge, UK
I don't think it would be possible to get the box office stuff working. I suppose it should be possible, if you ordered it using the sky box, did a new channel scan once you've been authorised to view it, and picked up the new channel, but it would be a lot a effort!

I will warn you that the process of getting this working has been fairly painful! Media Portal is the only decent Personal Video Recorder software that supports the Common Interface of the FloppyDTV. It used to be fairly unusable, as it used to crash a lot, but over the past couple of months, due to a valiant effort by the developers, it is pretty stable now and getting better all the time.

THe major bug bear at the moment is the "No Signal" bug, but that is being well aired on the forums and lots of people are lending a hand testing and it should hopfully be resolved soon. To be honest, it dosn't really cause me many problems.

I would say that you are probably getting into this about the right time, I think I was slightly early!

There are other PVR's that will probably support the CI in the future, but none are open source or free. This is probably not the place to mention them :)
 

Flipit

Portal Pro
February 19, 2005
100
0
FireDTV

Reading this forum and notice the comment on HD.

Thought I'd better clarify, this is all on the Fired DTV forum too, but took me a while to find.

Both FireDTV and FloppyDTV support HD broadcasts since the decoding of the transport stream is software based N.B. An MPEG4 codec would be needed. Some HD stream in DVB-S are avialable.. Kingofsat webiste lists them all.

However, most providers will move to the DVB-S2 standard when they moved to MPEG4. FireDTV only supports DVB-S so new hardware would be required to demodulate the -S2 stream.

SKY UK HD will be DVB-S2 MPEG4..

Good news is that the Digital-Everywhere team are aware of this and hope to have a working product for DVB-S2 some time before the end of the year...

However there is no garantee that when the providers move to new standard that they will keep their current encyption algorythmns.... so using the Trex/Dragon CAM may not work...so far SKY are making sounds that they will stick with the current NDS implementation...don't hold your breath though...though the predator is never far behind ;-)

As you can probably imagine small companies like digital everywhere are reluctant to invest in new hardware products they may not be able sell.

Anyway to answer the question.. HD is supported if the modulation is DVB-S, new hardware will be needed if the modulation is DVB-S2.

Enjoy
 

hoppy

Portal Pro
March 10, 2006
65
0
Cambridge, UK
I can confirm that the floppyDTV is indeed HD compatible (DVB-S as noted above), as I've managed to get the BBC HD trial working, although it dosn't work in MediaPortal yet as I don't think they support the H.264 encryption used by the bbc.
 

Phunky

Portal Member
July 19, 2007
43
1
38
Has anyone been able to get BBC HD to work via Media Portal yet? I can get every SD channel working fine with my FloppyDTV but have yet been able to get BBC HD to work.
 

mclog

Portal Member
November 6, 2006
41
0
Home Country
Finland Finland
Anybody found a CAM that can take the updates without going back into the Sky digibox?
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Similar threads

Ah yes, no channels from the radio times xml tv gui when you grab :(( I'll take a look at the radio channels, I don't think I included any of them. Sounds like a good tip though. Thanks. Maybe the lg tv is getting epg some other way. I stuck the wire in the back of it and it just worked straight off. Then I tried media portal... ---...
Ah yes, no channels from the radio times xml tv gui when you grab :(( I'll take a look at the radio channels, I don't think I...
Hi guys, New install. My EPG grabber runs very slow and looks like it's timing out or something. I get EPG for just the next...
Replies
5
Views
1K
Hi there, I've been spending a LOT of time the past few days reading up on how to setup hardware to allow watching live TV on various devices and had a few questions. My requirements are as follows: .... I just want to be able to stream some OTA HD channels to the following devices; Roku 3, iPad, Android phone, a few boxes running...
Hi there, I've been spending a LOT of time the past few days reading up on how to setup hardware to allow watching live TV on...
Hi there, I've been spending a LOT of time the past few days reading up on how to setup hardware to allow watching live TV on...
Replies
0
Views
3K
I have the same set up, just v. 6.5 and no use for it any longer... anybody interested to buy? Please get in touch.... http://www.digital-devices.eu/shop/en/cine-series/sets-und-bundles/15/dd-cine-s2-v6.5-und-duoflex-s2-v4-set-4-tuner-dvb-s/s2-for-pcie Tomas, Czech Republic
I have the same set up, just v. 6.5 and no use for it any longer... anybody interested to buy? Please get in touch...
Hello All from Czech republic. I need to sell followings parts: 1. Digital Devices Cine S2 (Rev5.5) - 1x DVBS2 Dualtuner Card...
Replies
1
Views
3K
I may give that a try. It would be better to have it work as you want it to work. Again, thanks for looking into this matter. OK, I made the changes to the DB and it is all working. Thanks a ton. Now, if you want me to test anything, let me know. I would be happy to be part of the process.
I may give that a try. It would be better to have it work as you want it to work. Again, thanks for looking into this matter...
I've been using MP for some time now and I like it, thanks. I am running: Dedicated Windows 8 MP 1.7.1 hotfix server Hauppauge...
Replies
4
Views
833
(y)
(y)
Hi, only joined today but have spent a lot of it reading through existing posts. Big caveat: I haven't yet demo'd MP, partly...
Replies
12
Views
3K
Top Bottom