Handling 3D / 3 Dimensional / Three Dimensional Movies

Discussion in 'Moving Pictures' started by calliso5, January 30, 2012.

  1. calliso5

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    I have tried several ways of searching for 3D information on the forum here, but with "3d" only being 2 characters, it automatically ignores the search string, and renders my search almost useless. Is there a way around this?

    Should there be a more standard way in which we all refer to 3d? Which can be identified by the search engine?

    What I am really looking for is this... Is it possible (I realize not currently) to create a way in which moving pictures can identify, maybe by aspect ratio or video size, whether a movie is of the 3D persuasion? Being new to 3D, I only have a few files right now and can easily manually alter the files/categories/descriptions to suit my needs. However, I'd like this to be more automated.

    So far I am using MP3D to play the files with much success.

    Any and all help is appreciated as always. Thank you very much MediaPortal community..



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    Would you be able to scan your 3D files using MediaInfo (MediaInfo) and paste the info from the video streams here?
    I'm interested in this, as i'm doing other MediaInfo related stuff currently anyways :)
     
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    Moving Pictures currently does not pull any information regarding 3D but FragKing is right, this would need to come from MediaInfo. FragKing if you put together a patch for this please let me know. ;)

    Also for what it's worth there is an open ticket for this in our tracker. Starring issues over there will increase their visibility and likelihood to get implemented.
     
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    Hi.
    Right ATM I separate 3d Movies from others due a separate sub-dir. I make a category with "full path include..." so I can separate them in MovPic..

    Personally I can't see anything 3D related there...
    Here are Media Info of my 3D Movies (not much):
     
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    Code (Text):
    1. Title : monsters.vs.aliens-1080p-[B]SBS[/B]
    Only one word that tells us it is 3D
    SBS means side-by-side.
    All your movies are anamorph so they have standart 1080p screen size.
    Hope you can undrestand me
     
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    Hi.
    I can understand you.
    All those movies are in Half-SBS Format so no way to recognise them on resolution. There is no "3D flag" inside the mkv container. This would be much easier.
     
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    Hi!
    But there is a 3D flag inside the mkv container, isn't it?
    I mux my SBS Movies with MKVMerge and can define a "stereoscopic mode" which can be found in MediaInfo:
    Code (Text):
    1. ID : 1
    2. Format : AVC
    3. Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    4. Format-Profil : High@L4.0
    5. MultiView_Count : 2                                         <-----------------
    6. MultiView_Layout : Side by Side (left eye first)    <----------------
    7. Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
    8. Format-Einstellungen für ReFrames : 3 frames
    9. Format_Settings_GOP : M=4, N=28
    10. Muxing-Modus : Header stripping
    11. Codec-ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    12. Dauer : 1h 29min
    13. Bitraten-Modus : variabel
    14. Bitrate : 6 266 Kbps
    15. maximale Bitrate : 40,0 Mbps
    16. Breite : 1 920 Pixel
    17. Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
    18. Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
    19. Bildwiederholungsrate : 50,000 FPS
    20. originale Bildwiederholungsrate : 25,000 FPS
    21. Standard : Component
    22. ColorSpace : YUV
    23. ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
    24. BitDepth/String : 8 bits
    25. Scantyp : Interlaced
    26. Scanreihenfolge : oberes Feld zuerst
    27. Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.060
    28. Stream-Größe : 3,91 GiB (87%)
    29. Default : Ja
    30. Forced : Nein
    31. colour_primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    32. transfer_characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    33. matrix_coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    34.  
     
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    Hi.
    Sounds great. Did not know that before. Remuxing the files should be no problem...
    So this can be easily read via MediaInfo.
    Code (Text):
    1. Video
    2. ID                                      : 1
    3. Format                                  : AVC
    4. Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    5. Format profile                          : High@L4.1
    6. MultiView_Count                          : 2
    7. MultiView_Layout                        : Side by Side (left eye first)
    8. Format settings, CABAC                  : Yes
    9. Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames
    10. Codec ID                                : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    11. Duration                                : 1h 33mn
    12. Bit rate                                : 4 140 Kbps
    13. Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
    14. Height                                  : 816 pixels
    15. Display aspect ratio                    : 2.35:1
    16. Frame rate                              : 23.976 fps
    17. Color space                              : YUV
    18. Chroma subsampling                      : 4:2:0
    19. Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    20. Scan type                                : Progressive
    21. Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                      : 0.110
    22. Stream size                              : 2.70 GiB (75%)
    23. Writing library                          : x264 core 120 r2120 0c7dab9
    24. Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=9 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    25. Default                                  : Yes
    26. Forced                                  : No
     
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    I know this is an old thread, however this would be great to impliment.

    This thread does point to a ticket that was created to add this feature and a patch was even created to add the feature to moving pictures. What's preventing it from being merged into the main code branch?
    http://code.google.com/p/moving-pictures/issues/detail?id=1010
     
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    It is the same patch as in http://code.google.com/p/moving-pictures/issues/detail?id=547 which is currently scheduled for MovPic 1.5 so lets hope that @fforde finds the time to incorporate this feature soon. :)
     
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